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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7886849" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>To the OP:</p><p></p><p>Firstly, I've enjoyed the movies, so there's not a lot structurally I'd change. That said, while it's my favorite film of the sequels, TLJ is also the weak link as far as the trilogy goes. This is primarily because it doesn't significantly alter the story overall. Plucky, short-on-resources heroes against overwhelming war machine is pretty much the start and end of the film, just with fewer resources and more pluck at the end. It needs a game change moment, like Vader/Luke in ESB or even the introduction of the clones in AotC so that the overall story can progress in a different way. (Vader's revelation in ESB changed the story from defeat the Empire to save Vader and defeat the Empire, for example.)</p><p></p><p>As such, I'd alter one scene in TLJ and add one at the end (trimming Canto Bight (not deleting, trimming) a tad to get the time).</p><p></p><p>The scene is the confrontation in front of Snoke. Instead of a killing strike on Snoke, I'd make it a mortal wound. Snoke, badly wounded and incapable of defending himself, calls on his guards to protect him while a few of the guard begin to drag him to safety. This changes the nature of the fight from generic guards of dead guy on heroes where exhaustion of hitpoints is the goal to a fight through guards to prevent Snoke from escaping -- a goal shared by both Rey and Ren but for different reasons. This also gives the opportunity to reshoot that fight scene, which is pretty weak overall (there's a number of missed beats where the stunt guys have to 'juggle' to cover). </p><p></p><p>The end of the scene is all guards dead but Snoke managing to escape. This leads back into the confrontation between Rey and Ren for the lightsaber as Ren makes the appeal to Rey to join him in hunting down Snoke and taking over the First Order to rule and Rey rejecting that.</p><p></p><p>Then, at the end of the movie, I'd have a scene where Snoke arrives on Exogal and beseeches Palpatine for help. Palpatine is entombed in a huge medical contraption that's obviously siphoning power from the very planet itself (dark side force source). Palpatine reveals that his plan has finally come to fruition with Snoke preparing Ren and that Snoke has no further use. At which point Palpatine siphons the life out of Snoke which allows him to partially emerge from his tomb as the lich. End scene on his laughter echoes out into a vast area where ships are being built.</p><p></p><p>In the Rise, I'd add a few changes -- the way that Hux goes out is a waste. I'd have him save the trio and then tell them about the zombie ships (crewed by Sith automatons, hence they're lack of initiative) and declare that Ren humiliated him and then replaced him as the leader of the 1st Order -- a slight he will avenge. Skip the blaster to the leg -- Hux was clearly more cunning than that -- and just have him caught during the escape so he can hurl invective in the face of his replacement before being executed. This is a better end to this character.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7886849, member: 16814"] To the OP: Firstly, I've enjoyed the movies, so there's not a lot structurally I'd change. That said, while it's my favorite film of the sequels, TLJ is also the weak link as far as the trilogy goes. This is primarily because it doesn't significantly alter the story overall. Plucky, short-on-resources heroes against overwhelming war machine is pretty much the start and end of the film, just with fewer resources and more pluck at the end. It needs a game change moment, like Vader/Luke in ESB or even the introduction of the clones in AotC so that the overall story can progress in a different way. (Vader's revelation in ESB changed the story from defeat the Empire to save Vader and defeat the Empire, for example.) As such, I'd alter one scene in TLJ and add one at the end (trimming Canto Bight (not deleting, trimming) a tad to get the time). The scene is the confrontation in front of Snoke. Instead of a killing strike on Snoke, I'd make it a mortal wound. Snoke, badly wounded and incapable of defending himself, calls on his guards to protect him while a few of the guard begin to drag him to safety. This changes the nature of the fight from generic guards of dead guy on heroes where exhaustion of hitpoints is the goal to a fight through guards to prevent Snoke from escaping -- a goal shared by both Rey and Ren but for different reasons. This also gives the opportunity to reshoot that fight scene, which is pretty weak overall (there's a number of missed beats where the stunt guys have to 'juggle' to cover). The end of the scene is all guards dead but Snoke managing to escape. This leads back into the confrontation between Rey and Ren for the lightsaber as Ren makes the appeal to Rey to join him in hunting down Snoke and taking over the First Order to rule and Rey rejecting that. Then, at the end of the movie, I'd have a scene where Snoke arrives on Exogal and beseeches Palpatine for help. Palpatine is entombed in a huge medical contraption that's obviously siphoning power from the very planet itself (dark side force source). Palpatine reveals that his plan has finally come to fruition with Snoke preparing Ren and that Snoke has no further use. At which point Palpatine siphons the life out of Snoke which allows him to partially emerge from his tomb as the lich. End scene on his laughter echoes out into a vast area where ships are being built. In the Rise, I'd add a few changes -- the way that Hux goes out is a waste. I'd have him save the trio and then tell them about the zombie ships (crewed by Sith automatons, hence they're lack of initiative) and declare that Ren humiliated him and then replaced him as the leader of the 1st Order -- a slight he will avenge. Skip the blaster to the leg -- Hux was clearly more cunning than that -- and just have him caught during the escape so he can hurl invective in the face of his replacement before being executed. This is a better end to this character. [/QUOTE]
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