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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7892162" data-attributes="member: 4348">It may be.  I can see the idea that it very well could be.  There is some strong evidence out there that Lucas changed quite a number of things, added things, and mixed it up completely from when he first started and throughout the process.  He also has interviews where he would say one thing in one, and awhile later contradict himself by saying something the exact opposite.As I said first, many...but not all have the idea I posted first.Ironically, the post you responded to (the second post on the topic) was NOT really about the prequels, only posting it as beginning option.  A Majority of the rest of it was explaining how Vader's redemption isn't actually the central theme of the Original trilogy without the prequels being tossed into the mix.  In fact, it's a secondary theme that is not even introduced in the first movie.As, I also pointed out, your idea is actually NOT what the trilogy is about either, or the main theme that was presented from the first one onwards.  It is a secondary theme that is presented (or...is that revisionist as well???) in the Empire Strikes Back. (edit: though even that is a tenuous stretch as we are merely introduced to the idea that He is Luke's Father...the real idea of trying to redeem him doesn't even really appear until the THIRD movie).The initial theme is the good guys fighting the bad guys and winning...or the Rebellion against the Big Bad Empire.The goal  was that the Rebellion would triumph over the Empire.  Only Luke really cared about the personal storyline of Vader, the rest of the cast and the story was more about the struggles of the good guys overall against the forces of the Empire.With that, Vader had to be defeated at some point of the Trilogy (being the main Villain introduced at the beginning of it) and the Emperor most likely as well.  Whether it is by Vader turning, being killed, or however, is irrelevant to the overall picture.  It is only that he and his forces of evil are defeated by the good guys in the fairy tale land that Star Wars takes place in.</blockquote>

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