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<blockquote data-quote="Longspeak" data-source="post: 7894107" data-attributes="member: 7019284"><p>The Force Awakens - I like this movie as-is for the most part. Yes, it's basically a remake of SW, but there was lots to love here. But there's some nitpicks...</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More Max Von Sydow. I mean, really, you hire a legend like that and kill him in the first scene?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Edit out Finn's lines about Rey having a "boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" and all the one-sided romance with her.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Edit <em><strong>in</strong></em> all of that for Po. Or just amp up the BBF vibe. One of my favorite things about this movie was they way they instantly bonded over their escape.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When Han and Chewie first appear, Han says "We're home, Chewie," and Chewie growls. Edit in Han responding with something like, "No, it always smelled like that."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Edit out the "Who's the girl" nonsense, or edit in something to explain why everyone thinks she's familiar.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Edit the subtitles in the bar scene. The woman who looks so obviously evil is Resistance and the droid is a Bounty Hunter. Just because I hate looking at someone and going "Oh, they're definitely evil."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Lay some hint at Rey's identity, probably with Maz.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Keep it cagey about who Kylo Ren is. Maybe not explain that until the moment Han goes "The face of my <em>son." </em>Let the audience learn it when Rey and Finn hear it.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Make StarKiller a little less comic-bookey. A laser that fires across the galaxy and blast multiple planets and it instantly visible from everywhere? What?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Some discussion of who Snoke is and where he comes from. Actually, perhaps a teeny bit more exposition on the whole Republic vs' First Order thing. A bit more than we get in the Opening Crawl.</li> </ul><p>The Last Jedi - I like this movie a lot, but it has more I'd want to fix.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I LOVE Po's ridiculous "I'm holding for General Hugs?" exchange. It's tone is off, but I like the attitude. "Can-- Can he hear me?"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Po's not a frickin' idiot. Have him acknowledge the cost of that victory. Maybe it was worth it to get so many out alive, but have him acknowledge the sacrifice more.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Have Holdo explain or at least reassure. We've just lost our leader, and the sub isn't telling anyone anything, and it looks like we're on a slow, inevitable death march. Maybe say something.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Eliminate the Rose/Finn hints at romance (because Po/Finn!). OR leave those hints in and then don't wuss out in the next movie, disney! (But really, Po&Finn).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Canto Blight... make it maybe not completely pointless. The entire subplot seems without purpose beyond "look at these evul rich people! Let's wreck it!"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A line or two to explain why we don't <em>constantly launch remote piloted X-Wings as hyperspace missiles</em> at heavy targets. Why didn't we do that in the beginning of the movie?!? Think of the lives we'd have saved! Why didn't the rebels do it to the death star in SW? Or RotJ?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Don't show us Luke's feet on the red salt. Made it a complete giveaway.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NO-ONE answers the resistance's call? Really? NO-ONE??? How about "We've heard back, but help is too far away to get here in time." "Tell them to stay away, then, no point in sacrificing more lives." "They say if we can get to them they can take us to safety..." Something more than just silence from the entire galaxy. I'd even settle for "Damn! The transmitter was damaged and we can't send a signal!"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I overall like Luke's reluctance, and the three versions of the Luke/Ben story. But I don't like how Rey immediately believes Ben to the point of attacking Luke when he won't talk. She watched as Ben murdered his own father. Maybe she senses conflict in him, but maybe don't immediately assume he's being truthful. "Ben has a different version of events Master Skywalker." "Of course," he realizes. "That's what it would have looked like from his view..." and then the third version of the story comes out, with Luke's shameful admission of his moment of doubt.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Luke riding Rey's back while she does something. Pushup, maybe. (I loved that one picture from the shoot where Mark Hamil is Yoda-ing on Daisey Ridley's back.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More discussion of Snoke. Maybe he's a clone of Palpatine, one that... had problems. SOMETHING. This coming from nowhere is annoying.</li> </ul><p>There's probably more.</p><p></p><p>And for The Rise of Skywalker, I've only seen it once, but the thing that glared for me right off the back, like many was the sudden, out of left field, mention of Palpatine. That needed to have groundwork laid in the first two movies, and then worked up to in the third.</p><p></p><p>Where the hell did this Final Order Fleet come from? It's gotta take years to build one of those, and there were thousands.</p><p></p><p>Either Po/Finn or Finn/Ruby. This deal where disney cowards shoved Ruby in a corner because of Internet Trolls was gross, and I despise the people who made that happen. I thought the romance was poorly scripted and unmotivated, but the reasons for quashing it make me want it back, times ten. Like a whole scene of them macking on each other while on the screen flashes "SCREW YOU INTERNET TROLLS THIS IS HAPPENING! IT'S CANON!"</p><p></p><p>But... really... Po/Finn.</p><p></p><p>There's definitely more for all three, especially TRoS. But I need to see TRoS again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Longspeak, post: 7894107, member: 7019284"] The Force Awakens - I like this movie as-is for the most part. Yes, it's basically a remake of SW, but there was lots to love here. But there's some nitpicks... [LIST] [*]More Max Von Sydow. I mean, really, you hire a legend like that and kill him in the first scene? [*]Edit out Finn's lines about Rey having a "boyfriend, cute boyfriend?" and all the one-sided romance with her. [*]Edit [I][B]in[/B][/I] all of that for Po. Or just amp up the BBF vibe. One of my favorite things about this movie was they way they instantly bonded over their escape. [*]When Han and Chewie first appear, Han says "We're home, Chewie," and Chewie growls. Edit in Han responding with something like, "No, it always smelled like that." [*]Edit out the "Who's the girl" nonsense, or edit in something to explain why everyone thinks she's familiar. [*]Edit the subtitles in the bar scene. The woman who looks so obviously evil is Resistance and the droid is a Bounty Hunter. Just because I hate looking at someone and going "Oh, they're definitely evil." [*]Lay some hint at Rey's identity, probably with Maz. [*]Keep it cagey about who Kylo Ren is. Maybe not explain that until the moment Han goes "The face of my [I]son." [/I]Let the audience learn it when Rey and Finn hear it. [*]Make StarKiller a little less comic-bookey. A laser that fires across the galaxy and blast multiple planets and it instantly visible from everywhere? What? [*]Some discussion of who Snoke is and where he comes from. Actually, perhaps a teeny bit more exposition on the whole Republic vs' First Order thing. A bit more than we get in the Opening Crawl. [/LIST] The Last Jedi - I like this movie a lot, but it has more I'd want to fix. [LIST] [*]I LOVE Po's ridiculous "I'm holding for General Hugs?" exchange. It's tone is off, but I like the attitude. "Can-- Can he hear me?" [*]Po's not a frickin' idiot. Have him acknowledge the cost of that victory. Maybe it was worth it to get so many out alive, but have him acknowledge the sacrifice more. [*]Have Holdo explain or at least reassure. We've just lost our leader, and the sub isn't telling anyone anything, and it looks like we're on a slow, inevitable death march. Maybe say something. [*]Eliminate the Rose/Finn hints at romance (because Po/Finn!). OR leave those hints in and then don't wuss out in the next movie, disney! (But really, Po&Finn). [*]Canto Blight... make it maybe not completely pointless. The entire subplot seems without purpose beyond "look at these evul rich people! Let's wreck it!" [*]A line or two to explain why we don't [I]constantly launch remote piloted X-Wings as hyperspace missiles[/I] at heavy targets. Why didn't we do that in the beginning of the movie?!? Think of the lives we'd have saved! Why didn't the rebels do it to the death star in SW? Or RotJ? [*]Don't show us Luke's feet on the red salt. Made it a complete giveaway. [*]NO-ONE answers the resistance's call? Really? NO-ONE??? How about "We've heard back, but help is too far away to get here in time." "Tell them to stay away, then, no point in sacrificing more lives." "They say if we can get to them they can take us to safety..." Something more than just silence from the entire galaxy. I'd even settle for "Damn! The transmitter was damaged and we can't send a signal!" [*]I overall like Luke's reluctance, and the three versions of the Luke/Ben story. But I don't like how Rey immediately believes Ben to the point of attacking Luke when he won't talk. She watched as Ben murdered his own father. Maybe she senses conflict in him, but maybe don't immediately assume he's being truthful. "Ben has a different version of events Master Skywalker." "Of course," he realizes. "That's what it would have looked like from his view..." and then the third version of the story comes out, with Luke's shameful admission of his moment of doubt. [*]Luke riding Rey's back while she does something. Pushup, maybe. (I loved that one picture from the shoot where Mark Hamil is Yoda-ing on Daisey Ridley's back. [*]More discussion of Snoke. Maybe he's a clone of Palpatine, one that... had problems. SOMETHING. This coming from nowhere is annoying. [/LIST] There's probably more. And for The Rise of Skywalker, I've only seen it once, but the thing that glared for me right off the back, like many was the sudden, out of left field, mention of Palpatine. That needed to have groundwork laid in the first two movies, and then worked up to in the third. Where the hell did this Final Order Fleet come from? It's gotta take years to build one of those, and there were thousands. Either Po/Finn or Finn/Ruby. This deal where disney cowards shoved Ruby in a corner because of Internet Trolls was gross, and I despise the people who made that happen. I thought the romance was poorly scripted and unmotivated, but the reasons for quashing it make me want it back, times ten. Like a whole scene of them macking on each other while on the screen flashes "SCREW YOU INTERNET TROLLS THIS IS HAPPENING! IT'S CANON!" But... really... Po/Finn. There's definitely more for all three, especially TRoS. But I need to see TRoS again. [/QUOTE]
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