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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3251507" data-attributes="member: 19675">The moral equation Honorable = Lawful has 3 possible meanings:1) All Honorable acts are Lawfulor2) All Lawful acts are Honorableor3) Both 1 and 2, above.Yet clearly, Lawfulness can also stand for acts that are not at all honorable- the close mindedness and other negative attributes listed in the same paragraph.&nbsp; If law can stand for both Honorable and dishonorable acts or attributes, then the equation Honorable = Lawful isn't true.&nbsp; There is significant overlap, but not identity.Furthermore, there are chaotic acts that can be honorable.&nbsp; A person who breaks into a house to free the slaves in a country where slavery is legal has broken the law, but has performed an honorable act.&nbsp; Thus, because there are acts that are chaotic and honorable, again the equating of Honor &amp; Law fails.IOW, if you drew a Venn diagram with one circle being &quot;Lawful acts&quot; and another &quot;Chaotic acts&quot;-and heck, lets even throw in &quot;Neutral acts&quot;- then drew another circle depicting &quot;Honorable acts,&quot; that last circle would have to overlap the other 3.&nbsp; If &quot;Honorable = Lawful&quot; were a true equation, Honor and Law would have 100% overlap (one would be entirely encircled by the other- position 1 or 2 above) or identity- both circles would be the exact same size- position 3, above).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 3251507, member: 19675"] The moral equation Honorable = Lawful has 3 possible meanings: 1) All Honorable acts are Lawful or 2) All Lawful acts are Honorable or 3) Both 1 and 2, above. Yet clearly, Lawfulness can also stand for acts that are not at all honorable- the close mindedness and other negative attributes listed in the same paragraph. If law can stand for both Honorable and dishonorable acts or attributes, then the equation Honorable = Lawful isn't true. There is significant overlap, but not identity. Furthermore, there are chaotic acts that can be honorable. A person who breaks into a house to free the slaves in a country where slavery is legal has broken the law, but has performed an honorable act. Thus, because there are acts that are chaotic and honorable, again the equating of Honor & Law fails. IOW, if you drew a Venn diagram with one circle being "Lawful acts" and another "Chaotic acts"-and heck, lets even throw in "Neutral acts"- then drew another circle depicting "Honorable acts," that last circle would have to overlap the other 3. If "Honorable = Lawful" were a true equation, Honor and Law would have 100% overlap (one would be entirely encircled by the other- position 1 or 2 above) or identity- both circles would be the exact same size- position 3, above). [/QUOTE]

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