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Message: <blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3301410" data-attributes="member: 12460">DMG recommends 18,000 gp, and I do not think that is out of line for this kind of item. Protection from arrows is a weak spell since magic bows and ammunition bypass it. By the time a PC can afford this, the opponents with scary ranged attacks will probably have magical weapons.What would be the range? I am thinking 30 feet or 60 feet. Perhaps two versions, a lesser and a greater. The only spell I know of that grants blindsense is dragonsight, a sor/wiz 5 spell that grants blindsense of 5 feet per caster level. Based on DMG guidelines, I would say for the lesser version 5 x 6 x 2,000 or 60,000 gp. But I would probably chop that in half because blindsense is only part of the spell's benefit. So let's say 30,000 gp for the lesser and 60,000 gp for the greater. Might be a little high, but blindsense is a powerful ability.This one is even more powerful. I probably would not even allow such an item into my campaign. However, there is a blindsight spell (clr 3; 30 ft.) and greater blindsight spell (clr 4; 60 ft.). Unlike dragonsight (which has an hour/level duration), these spells have a minute/level duration. So the only way to make it last all day (which is effectively what our item does) is to make it persistent (a 9th level effect). So offering them continually is powerful indeed. Either you would need to base it on the persistent spell (which would be insanely expensive) or I would say the caster level of the item would need to be fairly high. I'll take a stab at 17th. So that would be 3 x 17 x 2,000 or 102,000 gp for the lesser and 4 x 17 x 2,000 or 136,000 gp for the greater. I like these numbers well enough. Let's round them off to make them neater looking. 100,000 gp for the lesser and 150,000 gp for the greater. I still wouldn't allow continual blindsight into my campaign.</blockquote>

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