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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 270959" data-attributes="member: 944">I think there is no real way to stop the Valloreans in the long run. No mtter what you do they will keep coming and they have a huge amount of resources at their disposal. Most importantly they have the will to use them and to spend however many men it takesThats being said I think an unorthodox strategy is the only way to carry this battle.What I would do is .....Use your strategic weapons first---  While I don't have the Epic Level Handbook I do know that the spell seed system allows for some awesome spells.After I defended my forces to the max my first spell would be "Rain of Disjunction" some kind of nasty ultra wide are Mordenkianens Disjunction I would follow this up with a nasty wise area "spell forgetting" attack then a rain of negative energy .Scout them out, if they are really weak hit them hard and fast. If it wasn't as effective as you might like move to the next stageThe next stage would be a short guerilla style campaign . I would begin with a  a massive buff up of my vampires. I wan't them to be buffed enough to operate during the day.Their job would be force multiplication. Each vampire should raise some of its own kind as spawn. Well placed the negative rain will turn a  part of the army into undead, wights IIRC use up more clerical resources and heal your troops.My next attack cycle--- Harrasing and Skirmish warfare against supplies, spellcasters and assorted  weak groups.Hit them hard and run awayFollow up with more Disjunction spells, acidic and thermal rains and any other nasty ultra wide area spell you can come up with. I suspect by this time the Valoreans will have adapted to your tactics---No problem-- Switch off to summoned monsters, hoards and hoards of them.  Swarm of Dragons and afterward as many undead as you can muster.After that plague charms-- Just a little enchantment that suggests "Everyone not in you unit may be a monster in disguise" or if possible "Everyone but your mates are monsters-- kill them and you can live in honor"Attack the enemies mind and morale. Sap his will to fightIts a little like a Star Trek, keep rotating the shield frequency  if the enemy adapts---In this case keep changing tacticsAfter the long slog, the harrasing attacks, low rations ,the clerical casultys and undead attacks even the mighty legion should be a little weaker. Offer a parlay-- send out a weak human troop or two to deliver a messageLeave now and we will call of the attack--When they don't. and you know the Valloreans won't especially not after what you did to them hit with something else you haven't tried before---Its dicey at this point but you have a 25% of winning---As for the Ultra High Levels--- Well they expend the full battle load out of magic on the enemies special troops. Do this  early on than run.The Hobgoblins and the humans are replacable in time and eventually you will be able to hit deep into the Empire for a little payback.<WHEW>Oh I had a question SHARKDid you convert directly over to 3e from Rolemaster?I noticed you had 50th level characters out there. Those levels don't convert 1-1.Two Rolemaster levela are about equal to one 3e levelIf the Evil leader dude is 50th level that means he was about a hundred in Rolemaster OUCH!</blockquote>

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