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<blockquote data-quote="CRG" data-source="post: 289414" data-attributes="member: 5867">Gracias on the Wang-Liang.&nbsp; Nifty critters.Technically, however, Vampire only applies to humanoids and monstrous humanoids.&nbsp; Hopefully they, like ogres, arenot classified as giants.So, I like the 50th level character.&nbsp; Now, I'm not particularly up to speed on all the various classes in the splatbooks and frankly I don't own any of the FR specific books.&nbsp; What I DO know is that the Valloreans seem to have my number if I'm an outsider or undead.I still find myself thinking of things that are hard to dispel, hard to banish and hard for their goody-goody natures to smite and I keep coming back to animals, beasts, etc.&nbsp; The more the merrier.So....how about something like....Druid 20, Verdant Lord 10, Loremaster 10...maybe some CR in lich (the old, dead tree) and additional epic levels somewhere else.&nbsp; Maybe King/Queen of the mountain/plains/air.&nbsp; Some mix of that.&nbsp; Oh yeah.&nbsp; Do I have to be evil?&nbsp; Can I be LN?&nbsp; Straight N?What you do:Command the weather and the environment around my fortress.&nbsp; The very ground will attack my enemies.&nbsp; The trees and grasses will hinder them, the animals and vermin will plague them.&nbsp; And, because I'm all into it, the ground will swallow them up (earthquake still is an instant kill if you can't get out in time).Whats more, I'm not the evil fiendish thing they think.Or maybe, I am.&nbsp; Maybe some of my CR comes from demonic heritage (making me NE possibly) and really, I love the environment...just on my home plane.&nbsp; There's no reason this world can't be like the one of my fiendish parent....it just takes a little time.So what, the Valloreans stop to burn every tree and piece of grass?&nbsp; If they do, the weather (and my normal troops) can assail them.&nbsp; I can damn sure make sure their flying troops are useless with some tenacious spell (control weather) being thrown about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CRG, post: 289414, member: 5867"] Gracias on the Wang-Liang. Nifty critters. Technically, however, Vampire only applies to humanoids and monstrous humanoids. Hopefully they, like ogres, arenot classified as giants. So, I like the 50th level character. Now, I'm not particularly up to speed on all the various classes in the splatbooks and frankly I don't own any of the FR specific books. What I DO know is that the Valloreans seem to have my number if I'm an outsider or undead. I still find myself thinking of things that are hard to dispel, hard to banish and hard for their goody-goody natures to smite and I keep coming back to animals, beasts, etc. The more the merrier. So....how about something like.... Druid 20, Verdant Lord 10, Loremaster 10...maybe some CR in lich (the old, dead tree) and additional epic levels somewhere else. Maybe King/Queen of the mountain/plains/air. Some mix of that. Oh yeah. Do I have to be evil? Can I be LN? Straight N? What you do: Command the weather and the environment around my fortress. The very ground will attack my enemies. The trees and grasses will hinder them, the animals and vermin will plague them. And, because I'm all into it, the ground will swallow them up (earthquake still is an instant kill if you can't get out in time). Whats more, I'm not the evil fiendish thing they think. Or maybe, I am. Maybe some of my CR comes from demonic heritage (making me NE possibly) and really, I love the environment...just on my home plane. There's no reason this world can't be like the one of my fiendish parent....it just takes a little time. So what, the Valloreans stop to burn every tree and piece of grass? If they do, the weather (and my normal troops) can assail them. I can damn sure make sure their flying troops are useless with some tenacious spell (control weather) being thrown about. [/QUOTE]

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