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<blockquote data-quote="scruffygrognard" data-source="post: 4555156" data-attributes="member: 8313">I am thankful that you're not the guy in charge of the D&amp;D brand then! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Seriously though, I'm not saying that tieflings or dragonborn should be kicked out of the game... I'm just saying that they shouldn't be a core race.&nbsp; There is NO reason why they couldn't show up in a planar supplement or book on lizard/dragon-kind BUT see no reason why they should supplant races that have been a part of D&amp;D for 30-odd years.As for getting rid of Vancian magic, I can respect that.&nbsp; On the flipside, there needs to be a better system than the Power System of 4th edition for handling how class abilities work.&nbsp; Powers (and how they work) are one of the chief reason that NO ONE I know wants to play 4th edition (before you scoff, I know a lot of geeks who feel this way).&nbsp; MY group also wants to play a version of D&amp;D that includes utility spells.There are certain D&amp;D-isms that I'm not willing to part with and I know that I'm not alone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scruffygrognard, post: 4555156, member: 8313"] I am thankful that you're not the guy in charge of the D&D brand then! ;) Seriously though, I'm not saying that tieflings or dragonborn should be kicked out of the game... I'm just saying that they shouldn't be a core race. There is NO reason why they couldn't show up in a planar supplement or book on lizard/dragon-kind BUT see no reason why they should supplant races that have been a part of D&D for 30-odd years. As for getting rid of Vancian magic, I can respect that. On the flipside, there needs to be a better system than the Power System of 4th edition for handling how class abilities work. Powers (and how they work) are one of the chief reason that NO ONE I know wants to play 4th edition (before you scoff, I know a lot of geeks who feel this way). MY group also wants to play a version of D&D that includes utility spells. There are certain D&D-isms that I'm not willing to part with and I know that I'm not alone. [/QUOTE]

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