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How would you do the sword mage in 5e?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8861428" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>It depends on what you mean by a Swordmage. I think Gish is already covered quite well in a lot of different ways. I think you can do a pretty good single classed Gish already on the Paladin as well as many subclass options with Artificer, Ranger, Bard, Wizard, Fighter and Warlock in addition to numerous multiclass builds to really tune it how you want it. </p><p></p><p>I think a tier1 and 2 dedicated more "wizardy" Gish Chassis is easy. Take the Paladin Chasis and change as follows:</p><p>Change the casting stat to intelligence, use Wizard spell list with addition of the smite spells, proficiency in all armor and shields.</p><p>Level 1: Trade Divine Sense for proficiency in Arcana or Acrobatics. Trade Lay on Hands for Ritual Casting</p><p>Level 2: Fighting Style (allow all fighter styles), Divine Smite</p><p>Level 3: Trade Divine Health for two Wizard cantrips.</p><p>Level 4: ASI</p><p>Level 5: Extra Attack </p><p>Level 6: Trade Aura of Protection for ability to use your weapon as a focus for spells</p><p>Level 7: Get a third Wizard Cantrip</p><p>Level 8: ASI</p><p>Level 9: </p><p>Level 10: Trade Aura of Courage for the Bladesinger version of Extra Attack</p><p></p><p>In terms of power it would be a relatively weak class, with better spells than the Paladin but not as many abilities and way behind a Bladesinger Gish in raw power. It would not afford the high level spell options you get on a bladesinger and the temptation to pull you away from Gish into a more traditional Wizard though</p><p></p><p>In terms of thematics though I think it would be spot on and it would be viable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8861428, member: 7030563"] It depends on what you mean by a Swordmage. I think Gish is already covered quite well in a lot of different ways. I think you can do a pretty good single classed Gish already on the Paladin as well as many subclass options with Artificer, Ranger, Bard, Wizard, Fighter and Warlock in addition to numerous multiclass builds to really tune it how you want it. I think a tier1 and 2 dedicated more "wizardy" Gish Chassis is easy. Take the Paladin Chasis and change as follows: Change the casting stat to intelligence, use Wizard spell list with addition of the smite spells, proficiency in all armor and shields. Level 1: Trade Divine Sense for proficiency in Arcana or Acrobatics. Trade Lay on Hands for Ritual Casting Level 2: Fighting Style (allow all fighter styles), Divine Smite Level 3: Trade Divine Health for two Wizard cantrips. Level 4: ASI Level 5: Extra Attack Level 6: Trade Aura of Protection for ability to use your weapon as a focus for spells Level 7: Get a third Wizard Cantrip Level 8: ASI Level 9: Level 10: Trade Aura of Courage for the Bladesinger version of Extra Attack In terms of power it would be a relatively weak class, with better spells than the Paladin but not as many abilities and way behind a Bladesinger Gish in raw power. It would not afford the high level spell options you get on a bladesinger and the temptation to pull you away from Gish into a more traditional Wizard though In terms of thematics though I think it would be spot on and it would be viable. [/QUOTE]
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