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How would you do the sword mage in 5e?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8862769" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>It allows you to have as many self targeting spells up as you can cast and in addition allows another concentration spell which does not target you. The last part is really the most significant. The concentration rules as is prevent you from combining things like Bless and Hex, or Fear and Haste or Hold Monster and Greater Invisibility.</p><p></p><p>As an example, you could have from Evil and Good, Haste, Ashardalon's Stride, and Hex all up at the same time and a fighter dip with action surge could have them all four active in round 2 while also getting an attack in round 2 and a full action plus an extra attack in round 2. That is a low level example using only 1st and 3rd level spells. Imagine what you could do with high-level spells.</p><p></p><p>If I am playing a Bladesinger multiclass I can cast blur and then Haste and I can repeat this casting as bonus actions and keep repeating this over and over giving enemies disadvantage in addition to having a +2 AC, 90 move and all my attacks and an extra action or attack every turn. And I can do this while also concentrating on another offensive spell.</p><p></p><p>Another problem is incapacitated would not end the spell if it is not concentration.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Having played a bladesinger extensively - Running Blur or Protection from Evil and good without concentration would be very disruptive. Those are two of the key spells that would make this OP, especially if you can cast them as a bonus action. It is already bordeline OP even with the concentration requirement.</p><p></p><p>Blink is not as powerful as blur because it is unpredicatable and it puts you on another plane where you for the most part can't use reactions. Both spells take away attacks but blur or PEG are generally going to be more powerful.</p><p></p><p>For consideration, the most OP character in levels 11-14 I've seen played at a table is a Ranger who could ignore concentration on Summon Fey and that is not even a very powerful spell and it was limited only to that spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It takes a bonus action and you have to damage yourself to turn it on. That class also has extremely limited spellcasting</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8862769, member: 7030563"] It allows you to have as many self targeting spells up as you can cast and in addition allows another concentration spell which does not target you. The last part is really the most significant. The concentration rules as is prevent you from combining things like Bless and Hex, or Fear and Haste or Hold Monster and Greater Invisibility. As an example, you could have from Evil and Good, Haste, Ashardalon's Stride, and Hex all up at the same time and a fighter dip with action surge could have them all four active in round 2 while also getting an attack in round 2 and a full action plus an extra attack in round 2. That is a low level example using only 1st and 3rd level spells. Imagine what you could do with high-level spells. If I am playing a Bladesinger multiclass I can cast blur and then Haste and I can repeat this casting as bonus actions and keep repeating this over and over giving enemies disadvantage in addition to having a +2 AC, 90 move and all my attacks and an extra action or attack every turn. And I can do this while also concentrating on another offensive spell. Another problem is incapacitated would not end the spell if it is not concentration. Having played a bladesinger extensively - Running Blur or Protection from Evil and good without concentration would be very disruptive. Those are two of the key spells that would make this OP, especially if you can cast them as a bonus action. It is already bordeline OP even with the concentration requirement. Blink is not as powerful as blur because it is unpredicatable and it puts you on another plane where you for the most part can't use reactions. Both spells take away attacks but blur or PEG are generally going to be more powerful. For consideration, the most OP character in levels 11-14 I've seen played at a table is a Ranger who could ignore concentration on Summon Fey and that is not even a very powerful spell and it was limited only to that spell. It takes a bonus action and you have to damage yourself to turn it on. That class also has extremely limited spellcasting [/QUOTE]
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