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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 6413431" data-attributes="member: 63508">The same way fighters and wizards work. Or how superheroes teams work. The demigod might be able to lift a ton, breath underwater, leap 50t upwards from standing and run 100 ft a turn.But none of that is getting you close to Orcus' number 1 henchman.But Tricksy McScams the epic Con Artist speaks fluent Abyssal, has expertise in Deception, Religion, Persuasion, and Disguise kits  can reroll his failures, and can twist the truth to be a lie inside of a zone of truth with no preparation because he can lie so good that the Foresight spell can't predict his actions and telepathy is all lies......lies his ways all the way to his office."I have an important meeting with the guy in charge. I have 3 heroes of legendary renown tied up with magic rope made of Odin's beard.... Wait?! Fine, read my thoughts.... See. Nothing hidden... What. A zone of truth too? What's your names? I need to tell Orcus who is DELAYING OUR MEETING FORETOLD BY THE PHOPHETS OF GLASSA THREE THOUSAND YEARS AGO IN THE BOOKS OF AGU-NAMAMA. Notice the red hair, right. Passed that test too... sneak attack dagger in the heart. Magic only works on magic. I'm so good I fool myself. You dead, fool. You dead forever."EDIT:For Example the way I see it working is epic destinies like:Avatar of Rage<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gains rage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">can enter Primal Rages which grant special features when raging (Infectious Rages, increase lifting, immunity to certain magics, deafening and terrifying rages).</li> </ul>Archmage:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets more spells known or adds spells to spellbook with each epic level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets High Arcana which allows the archmage to burn low level spells lots for "metamagic"</li> </ul>Deadly Trickster<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets expertise in several skills (Acrobatics, Deception, Sleight of Hand, and Stealth ) and tools (thieves' tools, disguise kit, forgery kit)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets Epic Tricks which remove limits to skill use.</li> </ul>Demigod<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">raises the cap of ability scores slightly (25?)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets Divine Abilities</li> </ul>Grandmaster of Flowers<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gains Ki and Ki regeneration</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets Epic Martial Arts which allows incredible feats via Ki</li> </ul>Legendary Dreadnaught<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets proficient with all armor and weapons</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets expertise with some skills (Animal Handing, Athletics, Intimidate and Perception)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">gets Epic Exploits with removes skill and combat restrictions (jump farther, swim against currents, hear butterflies, lift and grapple anything)</li> </ul>Mostly lateral growth.</blockquote>

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