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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6438805" data-attributes="member: 6779310">In the old Mentzer and Alston/Denning editions, the level cap was 36th... power-wise, a little shy of 5E's 20th... and after about 25th, one could quest for immortality. Upon attaining immortality, one was now a 1st level immortal, told the restrictions, and allowed to play with the universe. A first level immortal was about equivalent in terms of raw brutality to about a 20th level character... but was practically unkillable, and low being on the totem pole of immortal society.In a 5E adaptation, I could see it starting at any Tier IV levels (17-20),  breaking the bounded accuracy to being, say, Immortal 1 being a "level 15" for purposes of the bounded accuracy, and running up to level 25 or so... And raw XP don't matter; it's plots, strokes, and epic monsters that matter for gaining immortal levels.</blockquote>