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How would you handle the Shadowdancer's Hide in Plain Sight ability during combat?
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<blockquote data-quote="Otterscrubber" data-source="post: 1380093" data-attributes="member: 4588"><p>Let's break this down. In order to use the Hide ability at all there are 2 guidelines that must exist:</p><p></p><p>1)You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check. Total cover or total concealment usually (but not always; see Special, below) obviates the need for a Hide check, since nothing can see you anyway.</p><p></p><p>2)If people are observing you, even casually, you can’t hide. You can run around a corner or behind cover so that you’re out of sight and then hide, but the others then know at least where you went. If your observers are momentarily distracted (such as by a Bluff check; see below), though, you can attempt to hide. While the others turn their attention from you, you can attempt a Hide check if you can get to a hiding place of some kind. (As a general guideline, the hiding place has to be within 1 foot per rank you have in Hide.) This check, however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to move fast.</p><p></p><p>All Hide in Plain Sight does is remove #2 from the equation. You must still have cover/concealment in order to do so. If your concealment was due to darkness then guess what, it won't do you any good vs. someone with darkvision if they are in range. And you must have a shadow within 10 ft. to do so. It does not explain why, my personal opinion is it is best not to contemplate some thigns too hard. Acceptance is a good thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Otterscrubber, post: 1380093, member: 4588"] Let's break this down. In order to use the Hide ability at all there are 2 guidelines that must exist: 1)You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check. Total cover or total concealment usually (but not always; see Special, below) obviates the need for a Hide check, since nothing can see you anyway. 2)If people are observing you, even casually, you can’t hide. You can run around a corner or behind cover so that you’re out of sight and then hide, but the others then know at least where you went. If your observers are momentarily distracted (such as by a Bluff check; see below), though, you can attempt to hide. While the others turn their attention from you, you can attempt a Hide check if you can get to a hiding place of some kind. (As a general guideline, the hiding place has to be within 1 foot per rank you have in Hide.) This check, however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to move fast. All Hide in Plain Sight does is remove #2 from the equation. You must still have cover/concealment in order to do so. If your concealment was due to darkness then guess what, it won't do you any good vs. someone with darkvision if they are in range. And you must have a shadow within 10 ft. to do so. It does not explain why, my personal opinion is it is best not to contemplate some thigns too hard. Acceptance is a good thing. [/QUOTE]
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