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How would you handle the Shadowdancer's Hide in Plain Sight ability during combat?
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<blockquote data-quote="Camarath" data-source="post: 1382212" data-attributes="member: 11987"><p>Having shadows within 10' does not in any way grant concealment and yet HiPS states that you can use the Hide skill in that situation. If you are asserting that being within 10' of shadows grants concealment please substantiate that claim.</p><p> Or one could assume that since the ability allows one to hide in a situation that grants neither cover or concealment the ability allows one to hide with out cover or concealment in that situation.</p><p> These are not the only options. Another option is that one does not need concelment when using HiPS. I think it far-fetched to assume that since one must have concelment and HiPS allows one to hide in a situation which does not grant concelment then HiPS somehow grants concelment with out of the other normal benefits of concelment so that one can hide. It is much more reasonable IMO that the ability removes the requirement for concelment rather than granting concelment without making mention of the fact that it does so. </p><p> So what the rules clearly state that to hide with in 60ft of a creature with Darkvision one <strong>must</strong> have cover or be invisible. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Camarath, post: 1382212, member: 11987"] Having shadows within 10' does not in any way grant concealment and yet HiPS states that you can use the Hide skill in that situation. If you are asserting that being within 10' of shadows grants concealment please substantiate that claim. Or one could assume that since the ability allows one to hide in a situation that grants neither cover or concealment the ability allows one to hide with out cover or concealment in that situation. These are not the only options. Another option is that one does not need concelment when using HiPS. I think it far-fetched to assume that since one must have concelment and HiPS allows one to hide in a situation which does not grant concelment then HiPS somehow grants concelment with out of the other normal benefits of concelment so that one can hide. It is much more reasonable IMO that the ability removes the requirement for concelment rather than granting concelment without making mention of the fact that it does so. So what the rules clearly state that to hide with in 60ft of a creature with Darkvision one [b]must[/b] have cover or be invisible. :D [/QUOTE]
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