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<blockquote data-quote="Planesdragon" data-source="post: 1619571" data-attributes="member: 11133">5d10 + 10 (assuming he had a measly 12 base CON).&nbsp; Ok, 46 hp isn't that bad.&nbsp; (Average HP, 10 + 5.5*4 + 10 = 42)&nbsp;&nbsp;7th level rogue with more HP than that?&nbsp; 7d6+7 (assuming same base con) ... 6 + 6*3.5 + 7 = 31 hp.&nbsp; If the Genasai has a +2 con (don't recall), that'd still be an average of only 38.&nbsp;&nbsp;8th level (human) fighter with 68 hp... If he has a 14 base con, that'd give us average HP of 10 + 7*5.5 + 16 = 54.5.&nbsp; If the human had an 18 con, the average HP would be as high as 76...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It sounds like, just based on the HP, your &quot;problem&quot; character either has worse ability scores or didn't roll as luckilly as his compatriots.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;HP aside, the half-dragon should only be one level behind in attack power--he does have a +4 to strength, after all.&nbsp; And to touch that off, he's got a breath weapon that's still on par with the best combat spell the wizard can pull off.&nbsp;&nbsp;And with a +4 natural armor, a half-dragon would actually make a fair tank.&nbsp; That is, once he gets good armor.&nbsp; (A half-dragon with full plate [or equipvalent] would have a AC in the area of 22, before any shield or dexterity bonus.)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The problem isn't the template, or even the player's really unlucky die rolls.&nbsp; The problem is that your player is a novice, and probably just doesn't know how to roll-play his character.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd suggest writing up some basic combat strategies (such as what the 3.5 MM has for the big bads), and throwing a few encounters designed to let tankish characters.&nbsp; You might even go so far as to suggest he re-roll his ability scores, and put his highest base score into Constitution, then Strength, and consider taking levels of Barbarian instead of Samuri.&nbsp; (A barbarian is a LOT closer to a Klingon IMO.&nbsp; And if he gets an 18 in con base, and takes five barbarian levels, he'd have 5d12+25 hp : an average of [12 + 4*6.5 + 30] 63 hp, close to what the 8th level fighter would have.&nbsp; And barbarian rage would let him push his strengh over 20 while raging... more than enough to match the fighter.)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember: if the character the player wants to play doesn't fit your game, and you still let him play it, it's still your job to make sure that he has a chance to shine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Planesdragon, post: 1619571, member: 11133"] 5d10 + 10 (assuming he had a measly 12 base CON). Ok, 46 hp isn't that bad. (Average HP, 10 + 5.5*4 + 10 = 42) 7th level rogue with more HP than that? 7d6+7 (assuming same base con) ... 6 + 6*3.5 + 7 = 31 hp. If the Genasai has a +2 con (don't recall), that'd still be an average of only 38. 8th level (human) fighter with 68 hp... If he has a 14 base con, that'd give us average HP of 10 + 7*5.5 + 16 = 54.5. If the human had an 18 con, the average HP would be as high as 76... It sounds like, just based on the HP, your "problem" character either has worse ability scores or didn't roll as luckilly as his compatriots. HP aside, the half-dragon should only be one level behind in attack power--he does have a +4 to strength, after all. And to touch that off, he's got a breath weapon that's still on par with the best combat spell the wizard can pull off. And with a +4 natural armor, a half-dragon would actually make a fair tank. That is, once he gets good armor. (A half-dragon with full plate [or equipvalent] would have a AC in the area of 22, before any shield or dexterity bonus.) The problem isn't the template, or even the player's really unlucky die rolls. The problem is that your player is a novice, and probably just doesn't know how to roll-play his character. I'd suggest writing up some basic combat strategies (such as what the 3.5 MM has for the big bads), and throwing a few encounters designed to let tankish characters. You might even go so far as to suggest he re-roll his ability scores, and put his highest base score into Constitution, then Strength, and consider taking levels of Barbarian instead of Samuri. (A barbarian is a LOT closer to a Klingon IMO. And if he gets an 18 in con base, and takes five barbarian levels, he'd have 5d12+25 hp : an average of [12 + 4*6.5 + 30] 63 hp, close to what the 8th level fighter would have. And barbarian rage would let him push his strengh over 20 while raging... more than enough to match the fighter.) Remember: if the character the player wants to play doesn't fit your game, and you still let him play it, it's still your job to make sure that he has a chance to shine. [/QUOTE]

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