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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5484491" data-attributes="member: 65637">The idea that fighters don't get supernatural stuff is rediculous.  Utterly, absolutely wrong in every measure.When his lord's army was surrounded, Saito Benkei held off a hundred men  so that his lord would have time to commit suicide. Despite being shot  with dozens of arrows, Benkei continued fighting and holding a critical  bridge. Eventually he did succumb to his wounds, but his devotion to his  lord was so great that he died standing up, weapon at the ready. The  soldiers of the opposing army were so terrified of him that they refused  to approach or cross the bridge.Fionn Mac Cumhaill lived for more than 200 years, could suck his thumb  to see the future (because his thumb had been burned when he was cooking  the salmon of wisdom), and like every single Fenian he could run  through the woods chased by dogs and remove a thorn from his foot  without slowing down, could leap over a branch higher than his own head,  could recite loads of poetry and declaim philosophy, and could  speak the secret language of the Druids and the Bards. He was also a  giant who could cross the sea to Wales and the water only came up to his  breast. If he brought a wounded man water with his own two hands the  wounded man would be healed. Most of the places in Ireland are named  after stuff he did.Fergus Mac Roy had a sword that extended into a rainbow and allowed him  to cut the heads off multiple enemies at once. He made a deal with Cu  Chulain that if Cu Chulain retreated from him in a duel, the next time  they met Fergus would be the one to fall back. When fighting Cu Chulain  in a big battle, he remembered his promise, and instead of striking Cu  Chulain he lopped the tops off of three mountains. A lot of <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> in  Ulster is named after stuff that Cu Chulain or Fergus or one of their  bros did.Achilleus is an obvious one, dipped in the river Styx so that only his  heel was vulnerable. Actually all the Greek warriors who sacked Troy,  Ajax, Agamemnon, Odysseus, they all could do impossible stuff.Sigurd ate a dragon's heart and could understand the speech of men and  beasts. So that's cool. Sir Cei, King Arthur's Seneschal, could hold  something in his hands and his hands were so hot that it would  eventually catch on fire if he wanted it to. Cu Roi, whose name means  The Hound of the Battlefield which totally owns, gets his head chopped  off, picks it up, and just keeps on truckingNo matter where you look, it's almost 100% warriors and fighters doing insane over the top impossible and, yes, supernatural stuff.Either the game is gritty unsupernatural, or the game is not, but you can't do both.  You can't have wizards being flying fantastic high magic wondermachines with fighters limited to being level 1 grunts - unless you actively want an Ars Magicka style game.Edit: Hell yeah top of page.  This should be required reading for any D&D game.</blockquote>

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