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How would you keep a Frenzied Beserker from killing the whole party?
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<blockquote data-quote="Templetroll" data-source="post: 248040" data-attributes="member: 2201"><p><strong>Re: We'll see</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're being insulting to those who disagree with you by painting <em>all</em> objections as metagaming. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure thing. The party can roleplay being scared for their lives and slaying that which most threatens them, the foes first and the FB next. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A reasonable party would try to incapacitate or injure the DW (Dominated Wizard) to cause him to have to make Concentration checks to get the spells off. the party would injure the wizard sufficiently to cause him to fall below 0 hits so that he was no longer a threat to them and they could then deal with the Dominator. A DW would not die due to going below 0 in this case, but I think a FB knocked down by the party may very well die. Seems reasonable to me.</p><p></p><p>Others have pointed out that the DW is acting under the influence of others while the FB is choosing a lifestyle that is causing the problem. A DW is not likely to occur in nearly every battle, a FB is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm, the rage of a barbarian has seen your character through many battles thus far. Quit metagaming <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> and take the FB levels but <em>don't</em> use the Frenzy unless there is a <em>reason beyond</em> normal battle <em>to cause</em> the unfettered frenzy. If you are the last one in the party standing; this would be very dramatic and not likely to harm any party members. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>If your child is slain by the bad guys; this was the basis of a nordic saga - the father went berserk when he saw his son killed. He leaped into the foes longship and hacked and slashed his way down the length of the boat killing the entire enemy crew. He then had a heart attack and died. (I see that as he was too injured to survive when he came out of the Frenzy) Very dramatic, wonderful roleplaying if you save the Frenzy only for special events.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The party wizard has to hold back on her abilities and actions so the FB doesn't have to?!? I don't think so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep; let the fight begin, the FB goes into Frenzy and then the party retreats until the noise stops. Either the FB has taken out the foes and calmed down or died. Then the party can take out the injured weakend enemy survivors. Sounds like the battle plan my characters would follow. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The party is going to try to survive and keep everyone alive; that's how it works best in D&D. I think it is much more likely for you to kill someone else before they decide to let you die and stay dead.</p><p></p><p>I hope you have fun with the character and that the others in the party also have fun being with him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Templetroll, post: 248040, member: 2201"] [b]Re: We'll see[/b] I think you're being insulting to those who disagree with you by painting [i]all[/i] objections as metagaming. :) Sure thing. The party can roleplay being scared for their lives and slaying that which most threatens them, the foes first and the FB next. ;) A reasonable party would try to incapacitate or injure the DW (Dominated Wizard) to cause him to have to make Concentration checks to get the spells off. the party would injure the wizard sufficiently to cause him to fall below 0 hits so that he was no longer a threat to them and they could then deal with the Dominator. A DW would not die due to going below 0 in this case, but I think a FB knocked down by the party may very well die. Seems reasonable to me. Others have pointed out that the DW is acting under the influence of others while the FB is choosing a lifestyle that is causing the problem. A DW is not likely to occur in nearly every battle, a FB is. Hmm, the rage of a barbarian has seen your character through many battles thus far. Quit metagaming :) and take the FB levels but [i]don't[/i] use the Frenzy unless there is a [i]reason beyond[/i] normal battle [i]to cause[/i] the unfettered frenzy. If you are the last one in the party standing; this would be very dramatic and not likely to harm any party members. :D If your child is slain by the bad guys; this was the basis of a nordic saga - the father went berserk when he saw his son killed. He leaped into the foes longship and hacked and slashed his way down the length of the boat killing the entire enemy crew. He then had a heart attack and died. (I see that as he was too injured to survive when he came out of the Frenzy) Very dramatic, wonderful roleplaying if you save the Frenzy only for special events. The party wizard has to hold back on her abilities and actions so the FB doesn't have to?!? I don't think so. Yep; let the fight begin, the FB goes into Frenzy and then the party retreats until the noise stops. Either the FB has taken out the foes and calmed down or died. Then the party can take out the injured weakend enemy survivors. Sounds like the battle plan my characters would follow. :D The party is going to try to survive and keep everyone alive; that's how it works best in D&D. I think it is much more likely for you to kill someone else before they decide to let you die and stay dead. I hope you have fun with the character and that the others in the party also have fun being with him. [/QUOTE]
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