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<blockquote data-quote="Valicor" data-source="post: 248171" data-attributes="member: 1555">Maybe afew more ideas would help since there haven't been any for awhile.1. Wall of Force, set as a sphere, keep him&nbsp; &nbsp; trapped.2. Cube of Force item if your in a high magic&nbsp; &nbsp; campaign. 3. Bead of force.&nbsp; Not sure of your reflex&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; save. (This can get exspensive, much like&nbsp; &nbsp; number 2)4. How about a darkness spell, scroll or wand.&nbsp; He&nbsp; &nbsp; can't see anyone about a minute passes, with&nbsp; &nbsp; out any action agaisnt him, I think it would be&nbsp; &nbsp; safe to say the enconter is over. &nbsp;&nbsp; A wand would cost about 4500, half if you have&nbsp; &nbsp; your party wizard or cleric make it.&nbsp; And that&nbsp; &nbsp; can block end 50 Frenzies.&nbsp; That would come out&nbsp; &nbsp; to around 90gp per frenzy, at a rate of 1&nbsp; &nbsp; frenzy a day, sounds good.5. Epeditious retreat, double your running speed.&nbsp; &nbsp; Don't forget he can't even run after you. There&nbsp; &nbsp; is only a problem when you are the fighter in&nbsp; &nbsp; heavy plate.6. How about since he has a low will save, use&nbsp; &nbsp; some of those charm and compulsion spells&nbsp; &nbsp; agaisnt him.&nbsp; Maybe even provide an illusion to&nbsp; &nbsp; make him think the battle is over.There are so many options out there, so instead of calling him idiotic or irresponsible or desruptive to the party, which seems to be the general attitude of many people here, suggest ideas to help.&nbsp; Simply saying No doesn't make progress, thinking about solutions and having an open mind does however.My 2 cents.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Valicor, post: 248171, member: 1555"] Maybe afew more ideas would help since there haven't been any for awhile. 1. Wall of Force, set as a sphere, keep him trapped. 2. Cube of Force item if your in a high magic campaign. 3. Bead of force. Not sure of your reflex save. (This can get exspensive, much like number 2) 4. How about a darkness spell, scroll or wand. He can't see anyone about a minute passes, with out any action agaisnt him, I think it would be safe to say the enconter is over. A wand would cost about 4500, half if you have your party wizard or cleric make it. And that can block end 50 Frenzies. That would come out to around 90gp per frenzy, at a rate of 1 frenzy a day, sounds good. 5. Epeditious retreat, double your running speed. Don't forget he can't even run after you. There is only a problem when you are the fighter in heavy plate. 6. How about since he has a low will save, use some of those charm and compulsion spells agaisnt him. Maybe even provide an illusion to make him think the battle is over. There are so many options out there, so instead of calling him idiotic or irresponsible or desruptive to the party, which seems to be the general attitude of many people here, suggest ideas to help. Simply saying No doesn't make progress, thinking about solutions and having an open mind does however. My 2 cents. [/QUOTE]

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