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How would you keep a Frenzied Beserker from killing the whole party?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 253287" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Personally, here's I see it.</p><p></p><p>If the FB shows signs of using defensive tactics or nonpurely attack actions, like bull rushing, triping, fighting defensively during his normal enemies, then there should be no reason he can't do it when fighting allies. BUT.... if he's all hack in slash in combat, then all of a sudden goes defensive, then that's metagaming and shouldn't be allowed.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the guy was selfish in suggesting an idea and asking advice on how to handle it. What would be selfish is finding a way to deal with it that would cost the party their own resources.</p><p></p><p>I think the levitate idea is the absolute best idea. The FB can provide the gold to buy it, it doesn't take spell slots or special items the rest of the party needs to provide. And its not unreliable like using hold spells and things like that. However, it has 3 flaws.</p><p></p><p>1) The wanduser dies during combat</p><p>2) Combat begins suddenly,and there was no time to cast levitate</p><p>3) An area doesn't allow magic (a town, antimagic field, etc)</p><p></p><p>Therefore, I think the shackles are a great backup plan. They can be used in a pinch when levitate isn't appropriate.</p><p></p><p>I would say, however, that the party is completely within their rights to warn the FB, that is this countermeasures fail, they will stop him by any means necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 253287, member: 5889"] Personally, here's I see it. If the FB shows signs of using defensive tactics or nonpurely attack actions, like bull rushing, triping, fighting defensively during his normal enemies, then there should be no reason he can't do it when fighting allies. BUT.... if he's all hack in slash in combat, then all of a sudden goes defensive, then that's metagaming and shouldn't be allowed. I don't think the guy was selfish in suggesting an idea and asking advice on how to handle it. What would be selfish is finding a way to deal with it that would cost the party their own resources. I think the levitate idea is the absolute best idea. The FB can provide the gold to buy it, it doesn't take spell slots or special items the rest of the party needs to provide. And its not unreliable like using hold spells and things like that. However, it has 3 flaws. 1) The wanduser dies during combat 2) Combat begins suddenly,and there was no time to cast levitate 3) An area doesn't allow magic (a town, antimagic field, etc) Therefore, I think the shackles are a great backup plan. They can be used in a pinch when levitate isn't appropriate. I would say, however, that the party is completely within their rights to warn the FB, that is this countermeasures fail, they will stop him by any means necessary. [/QUOTE]
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