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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 5821556" data-attributes="member: 1879">I think you misunderstood my point. It was not that any given combination of existing roles could not be combined into a single character given enough splatbooks.It was that in 3e, with the more powerful and flexible multiclassing rules I could take a class or powerset that I like and easily recast it into another 'role' by adding in the class feature I wanted.My perception of 4es multiclassing set-up is that it is constrained by the explicit function of roles and so prevents that ready mixing of flavors.You might argue that instead 3es frontloaded multiclassing rules were the problem and 4e improved upon that, but I don't think you can deny that 3e let me mix and match class powers and features more easily to create a character with the abilities or flavor I wanted. As I've said elsewhere, it may well be that I'm overemphasizing the importance of roles in my dislike of 4es design aesthic. It may well be the implementation of the role system, rather than the concept itself which I find so repugnant. But since it would be quite easy to retain roles behind the screen while eliminating them from explicit apperances in the books, I think WotC would be well served to pulll them away from the cameras focus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andor, post: 5821556, member: 1879"] I think you misunderstood my point. It was not that any given combination of existing roles could not be combined into a single character given enough splatbooks. It was that in 3e, with the more powerful and flexible multiclassing rules I could take a class or powerset that I like and easily recast it into another 'role' by adding in the class feature I wanted. My perception of 4es multiclassing set-up is that it is constrained by the explicit function of roles and so prevents that ready mixing of flavors. You might argue that instead 3es frontloaded multiclassing rules were the problem and 4e improved upon that, but I don't think you can deny that 3e let me mix and match class powers and features more easily to create a character with the abilities or flavor I wanted. As I've said elsewhere, it may well be that I'm overemphasizing the importance of roles in my dislike of 4es design aesthic. It may well be the implementation of the role system, rather than the concept itself which I find so repugnant. But since it would be quite easy to retain roles behind the screen while eliminating them from explicit apperances in the books, I think WotC would be well served to pulll them away from the cameras focus. [/QUOTE]

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