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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5822369" data-attributes="member: 22779">And, I think this, more than anything is the biggest problem and mistake with 4e.&nbsp; I've stated it elsewhere (and it might have been in this thread, I forget) that 4e's biggest issue is presentation.&nbsp; 4e has probably the most robust ruleset of any version of D&amp;D.&nbsp; It has huge amounts of support for a very, very wide range of concepts.&nbsp; The fact that much of the flavor of anything isn't tied to specific mechanics results in a huge amount of flexibility.&nbsp; You want an assassin paladin?&nbsp; Not a problem.&nbsp; Assassin isn't a class, and you can respec much of a paladin's abilities to make him into a pretty decent assassin.&nbsp; Now THAT's flexibility.But, and this is a huge but, 4e isn't written that way.&nbsp; It presents a very static game with a very strong voice and a lot of one-true-wayism statements (don't talk to the gate guard is a good example).&nbsp; The wall of text in the powers causes people's eye's to glaze over and that, coupled with a very, very transparent ruleset written from a very meta-game level results in a lot of people, like Andor, quite reasonably perceiving the game as being very limited.4e is a game in DIRE need of better presentation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5822369, member: 22779"] And, I think this, more than anything is the biggest problem and mistake with 4e. I've stated it elsewhere (and it might have been in this thread, I forget) that 4e's biggest issue is presentation. 4e has probably the most robust ruleset of any version of D&D. It has huge amounts of support for a very, very wide range of concepts. The fact that much of the flavor of anything isn't tied to specific mechanics results in a huge amount of flexibility. You want an assassin paladin? Not a problem. Assassin isn't a class, and you can respec much of a paladin's abilities to make him into a pretty decent assassin. Now THAT's flexibility. But, and this is a huge but, 4e isn't written that way. It presents a very static game with a very strong voice and a lot of one-true-wayism statements (don't talk to the gate guard is a good example). The wall of text in the powers causes people's eye's to glaze over and that, coupled with a very, very transparent ruleset written from a very meta-game level results in a lot of people, like Andor, quite reasonably perceiving the game as being very limited. 4e is a game in DIRE need of better presentation. [/QUOTE]

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