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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rayne Blythewood" data-source="post: 1513362" data-attributes="member: 16674">Well our goal is to actually do our own ritual ceremony on the side of a cliff that is outside of their lair.  Their is a gate their and an altar that we need to use.  The only problem is that it isn't that defensible being in the open.  So under the gate in the mountain/volcano is their lair (naturally occurring) that is protected from divinations and teleportation.  When you are inside you will not be able to summon creatures also.  So we intended to hit them and disrupt things a bit and then hopefully be able to get our ritual done to SAVE THE WORLD and close the gate permanetly, preventing the demons from returning and taking over THE WORLD.    With the help from someone else I have realized that the bbeg's who have been scrying on us, haven't been doing it from inside because they can't.  So I will put forth the idea of using some of those wierd scry spells that don't get used much to return the scry back on the enemy to see where he is and then perhaps pop (teleport) in for some tea and crumpets.  I mean if he wants to know what we are up to we might as well talk in person.I'm getting great replies back from this post and I'd like to say thanks to everyone who has been shelling out ideas.  I'd also like to thank Shallown for helping answer and questions or providing details I may have left out.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></blockquote>

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