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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawke" data-source="post: 4202920" data-attributes="member: 61721">Good point about the backstory, my only thought is that I'd like for Defilers/Preservers to have access to similar spells. Even if there are Defiler or Preserver only spells for their discipline, a common overlap could work out. With the full on Vancian casting this seemed to work easier than it will with the power system... but I'm sure some clever things could be done. Maybe make it work like multiclassing but with the free ability of a Defiler to pick the Multiclass Power Feat without having to take the root class multiclass feat?Ah, correct. Good points and I think fits well into the world. It seems like Fighter = Gladiator, but I think it would be more of a stretch to do Barbarian = Gladiator (as many 3.5 conversions based) with the 4E Primal power source. I wonder how much creating a "gladiator" vs. "fighter" might be about adding powers / builds to the Fighter class rather than recreating a completely different class. Same thing for all other classes, I guess... Athasian Soldier build for the Warlord etc. I guess the full rules will let us see how easy this sort of stuff will be to create and then the campaign settings will show how much they want to change to the core classes.</blockquote>