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How would you re-envision Ravenloft for 4e.
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<blockquote data-quote="Toben the Many" data-source="post: 3971734" data-attributes="member: 19273"><p>Two problems right there. For one, word "re-released". If you re-release something that's pretty much the same as it was before, not as many people buy it. </p><p></p><p>As an aside, I don't think that releasing a series of Gazetteers again would work. The Gazetteers, while being excellent for Ravenloft, and perhaps the best of all of the 3e material, were the worst selling products in the line. That's because usually just one person in a group bought a Gazetteer (the DM) and then usually the DM just bought one Gazetteer - the one featuring the domains he/she needed.</p><p></p><p>I think what Ravenloft would have to do is to release a single, large Gazetteer or world book, much like what is done in many other settings. Anyhow...moving on. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting you should say that. Because the Darklords aren't really all that powerful and all-seeing. </p><p></p><p>For example, Ivana Boritsi is an Expert, I think. I mean, that's it. No wizard levels, no sorcerer levels. Many of the other Darklords aren't really anything powerful, with many of them with NPC levels. Also, few of them have access to scrying abilities. Keep in mind that many Darklords have died over the years. So they certainly aren't untouchable. Azalin stands alone as having ridiculous amounts of power (more than any god in 3rd edition, as a matter of fact). </p><p></p><p><u>However</u> you raise an excellent point. And that is that there is this <em>perception</em> that the Darklords are all-powerful and all-seeing. And that would definitely need to change. Because you're right. That's what turns most people off from Ravenloft. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree 100 percent. </p><p></p><p>It might be something as simple as - if you exit your Domain, you lose all of your cool Darklord powers. Which is sort of an insidious way to make a prison. I can see many of the Darklords in Ravenloft <em>never</em> leaving their Domains because they don't want to give up their power. I think it would play right into the constant theme of irony in the setting if basically, the Darklords could really leave their Domains at any time, but each of them is so addicted to having access to their powers that they feel like they can't leave. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I like this a lot and totally agree. </p><p></p><p></p><p>That could be handled easily with Paragon paths.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toben the Many, post: 3971734, member: 19273"] Two problems right there. For one, word "re-released". If you re-release something that's pretty much the same as it was before, not as many people buy it. As an aside, I don't think that releasing a series of Gazetteers again would work. The Gazetteers, while being excellent for Ravenloft, and perhaps the best of all of the 3e material, were the worst selling products in the line. That's because usually just one person in a group bought a Gazetteer (the DM) and then usually the DM just bought one Gazetteer - the one featuring the domains he/she needed. I think what Ravenloft would have to do is to release a single, large Gazetteer or world book, much like what is done in many other settings. Anyhow...moving on. Interesting you should say that. Because the Darklords aren't really all that powerful and all-seeing. For example, Ivana Boritsi is an Expert, I think. I mean, that's it. No wizard levels, no sorcerer levels. Many of the other Darklords aren't really anything powerful, with many of them with NPC levels. Also, few of them have access to scrying abilities. Keep in mind that many Darklords have died over the years. So they certainly aren't untouchable. Azalin stands alone as having ridiculous amounts of power (more than any god in 3rd edition, as a matter of fact). [u]However[/u] you raise an excellent point. And that is that there is this [i]perception[/i] that the Darklords are all-powerful and all-seeing. And that would definitely need to change. Because you're right. That's what turns most people off from Ravenloft. I agree 100 percent. It might be something as simple as - if you exit your Domain, you lose all of your cool Darklord powers. Which is sort of an insidious way to make a prison. I can see many of the Darklords in Ravenloft [i]never[/i] leaving their Domains because they don't want to give up their power. I think it would play right into the constant theme of irony in the setting if basically, the Darklords could really leave their Domains at any time, but each of them is so addicted to having access to their powers that they feel like they can't leave. Interesting. I like this a lot and totally agree. That could be handled easily with Paragon paths. [/QUOTE]
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