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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3976863" data-attributes="member: 7635">See, most of my die-hard Ravenloft fans never saw it as a meatgrinder, but we played up the romantic horror elements more. What I despised from the setting is that the world was... artificial. Back when TSR wanted every god in the Great Wheel, every world in a crystal sphere, and every domain tied to either a horror-movie cliche or a known TSR setting, it was kinda acceptable. (kinda). But there was plenty of bull that made even the heartiest suspension of disbelief come crashing down. Every domain (even ones right next to each other) had a different languages and rarely shared a single common (not as D&D defines it) tongue for trade, technology and society differed wildly that you often had renaissance enlightened lands next to gothic medieval fiefdoms. There was freaking hole in the center of the continent, and the east side of the land mass lacked a proper sea.  Heck domains couldn't even agree on the nature, size and number of MOONS there were! :\ Beyond that the artificial nature of the land, you have every cliche'd monster trope made semi-famous.DM: You enter the domain of Nova Vaasa, the wild lands controlled by Lord Hiregaad the..PC1: Which one is he?PC2: Dr. Jekyll and Mr. HydePC1: Oh, got it.So what Ravenloft could use it a.) less ham-handed uses of horror tropes with every serial number hastily scratched off b.) a good de-multiversing and removal of non-natives (I'm looking at you Soth) and c.) a world that pretends to make sense from the perspective time, geography, social and natural sciences. I think it can be done and done well, but it needs some sacred hamburger with a side of cracked eggs...</blockquote>

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