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<blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 8946398" data-attributes="member: 7015698"><p>Paragon paths aren't subclass, they're closer to prestige class. You had optional class features at 1st level that acted like a subclass. Like, you had the level 1 Fighter Talent feature which let you pick between: Weapon Talent, Battlerager Vigor, Tempest Technique, Brawler Style and Arena Training. Furthermore, you had powers that gave you bonus effects if you used certain groups of weapons. If you took advantage of those, a Hammer Fighter and Sword Fighter were effectively two different subclass. </p><p></p><p>Huuuuh... no. Daily Powers usually always had either: an assured effect, effect/dmg on a miss, granted a passive buff, or had the 'Reliable' keyword (especially Martial powers) that let you retain your Daily if you missed. There was no way to outright 'waste' your daily aside from bad strategic decisions. </p><p></p><p>Hmm... but what about stuff like the Warden's forms? Or the zone created by the Cleric's Beacon of Hope? (AKA 'Bacon of Hope' as we called it)</p><p></p><p>They were called Rituals. </p><p></p><p>PHB2</p><p></p><p>Yes! I miss the bloodied condition!</p><p></p><p>Was it a Skill Power or a Feat or some kind of Feature that allowed you to use BLUFF instead of the linked skill when doing a ritual? Literally faking your way to arcane power! Hilarious stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Undrave, post: 8946398, member: 7015698"] Paragon paths aren't subclass, they're closer to prestige class. You had optional class features at 1st level that acted like a subclass. Like, you had the level 1 Fighter Talent feature which let you pick between: Weapon Talent, Battlerager Vigor, Tempest Technique, Brawler Style and Arena Training. Furthermore, you had powers that gave you bonus effects if you used certain groups of weapons. If you took advantage of those, a Hammer Fighter and Sword Fighter were effectively two different subclass. Huuuuh... no. Daily Powers usually always had either: an assured effect, effect/dmg on a miss, granted a passive buff, or had the 'Reliable' keyword (especially Martial powers) that let you retain your Daily if you missed. There was no way to outright 'waste' your daily aside from bad strategic decisions. Hmm... but what about stuff like the Warden's forms? Or the zone created by the Cleric's Beacon of Hope? (AKA 'Bacon of Hope' as we called it) They were called Rituals. PHB2 Yes! I miss the bloodied condition! Was it a Skill Power or a Feat or some kind of Feature that allowed you to use BLUFF instead of the linked skill when doing a ritual? Literally faking your way to arcane power! Hilarious stuff. [/QUOTE]
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