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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8953565" data-attributes="member: 82106">To relate this somewhat back to the topic at hand, I don't consider anything to be 'missing' from 4e in the way of craft, etc. Ask yourself the question "why am I doing this?" and the answer is always going to equate to one of 4e's list of skills. Yes, you may be "cooking a strawberry tart" but the reason you are doing that is to win the heart of the Princess! This is something like Diplomacy/raw CHA, maybe even Bluff or perhaps Streetwise. Now, from a FICTIONAL perspective, as GM, I will want to find out how it is that your character can bake, but this is not some sort of esoteric ability that is hard to come by. Heck, if the player wants to ask for a +5 Proficiency bonus because they happened to select a 4e background that would know how to bake, GREAT! I guess if your theme or whatever seems to make that highly appropriate, that would also suffice. So, we see that background and such are not non-existent, nor unimportant necessarily, they're just not RATIONED THINGS like skills are! This is why the 4e skill system works, because you don't have to pick between "I know how to pick a lock" and "I know how to bake tarts." Honestly, I couldn't find any way to significantly improve the 4e skill system, and just left it alone. Frankly, if a player wants his PC to make a living as a brick layer, or whatever, why worry about mechanics for that? Its an FRPG, that mundane stuff is not really a part of it, aside from being in the fiction. It doesn't NEED rules. This is also part of why I consider wealth as a candidate to become an abstract system. It just isn't THAT important, and for whatever unusual situations where it might be, you can still play out those specific ones. If my Wealth +0 totally broke dude finds a 1000gp treasure, well, he's not Wealth +0 anymore, eh? I call that a 'minor boon' in my game. It might be a reward for a minor quest, or something you find during an adventure. Useful, maybe even something you seek out, but not the POINT of the game.</blockquote>

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