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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7213133" data-attributes="member: 59848">I guess I'm looking at this from a different perspective, but why are two player characters doing this? What reason does the first player have to get by the other players invisible with this wand, and for what reason would the other player see a flying wand and their first thought isn't "Is that a flying stick bug? I didn't think they could fly..."? For me, if players are casting spells against each other, I think it is more fun to have them talk and determine what they think is more fun for the story, and if they disagree as DM I would just roll a percentile  (35% player one choice, 35% player 2 choice, 30% random result determined by my favorite DM tool, Story Dice).In my head this is a moment that should be less handled by mechanics, and more by the rule of cool and player interaction. But I also really have a problem with a wizard seeing a flying stick that could be anything and assuming (without an arcana+perception check or detect magic being active) that clearly it is a wand.</blockquote>