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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7214057" data-attributes="member: 6895991">[MENTION=6802604]Waterbizkit[/MENTION]Cite from your post:"That PC then tries to pass the rest of the party without taking the hide action. So far as I'm concerned, given what I said above, the party knows that an invisible creature is moving by them. They even know where it is because again, the flying invisible PC has made absolutely no attempt to hide. Because of this I would allow the party wizard to cast Dispel Magic on the invisible creature because he knows where it is and the spell doesn't specify that the target be seen."End cite, Sorry i got some editor issue on this machine so i have to cite like this.You have clearly found out where i take issue, exactly here-First the wand is not hidden due to homebrew as stated, which i admit i did overread, but that is good so we do not need another ruling here concerning wether it would interact with the illusion spell invisibility, it is simply not affected by it due to it being homebrew.Second you state someone needs to be under invisibility spell AND use the hide action to really not be seen. That is imho not the case. Somebody with invisibility cast on itnot moving but not taking hide action would in your interpretation of the rules be seen clearly visible as in broadest daylight just because --- what? he is breathing? Say it is an invisible Acid blob not moving not breathing but not hiding what discernable noise would it make?Ok i am a bit drastic, i agree to your rule if e.g. someone casts invisibility on himself and then makes loud noise by walking with with metal boots on a stone floor would clearly give away his general position but thats about it.As would someone casting the spell on himself in view of an observer who is then using his perception (active roll!) to figure out where the first one would move after the casting.But someone flying, what noise would he make at say 120 ft / 6 seconds thats 20 feet per second that is nothing my friend, that certainly does not imply to an observer:"Oh i see a flying wand but it is making a noise like a starting jet nearby so someone must be using a fly spell to carry that wand and since i cannot seem to see him he must be invisible but not hiding ah there he is lets cast dispel to get him falling for the lulz."According to your interpretation, which you can certainly use on your table - i do not deny rule zero to any DM - what in the hell would the player noticing the flying invisible wand wielder exactly see? Flimmering air? a shadow? Sorry but someone with a fly spell simply flies he does not make footstep noise or flaps with his arms or whatever.If in your group someone has the observant feat i would allow a DC 20 perception check with disadvantage to notice anything other than a flying wand.And do not fixate on he passes the party in the OP, since according to the OP he does this in a height of 50 ft which means 43 feet above their heads, it is not like he rushes by while trying  not to touch them with the edges of his cloak.</blockquote>

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