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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7214360" data-attributes="member: 6895991">Thanks for pointing that out XP for that, and lol on the heavy breathers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />And I think also your heavily obscured condition for hiding is the correct one.I think people view that game as a tactical combat simulation sometimes tend to forget about context. I did never deny that someone invisible who makes a lot of noise gives himself away, what I do deny, is like you also wrote that someone makes big noise by flying via spell or leaves other tracks. So in this special case any kind of stealth check is unnecessary, it simply does not apply.If dispel magic would target a definable area, say a couple of squares on a battle map, then I would agree with the posters having the opinion that the dispel at the wand would cause the other spells on the individual to fail.But dispel says a creature or object and if you target the object you do not target the creature. The wand is also the only possible thing to target in this case. If I want to get action out of this scene as a DM, I would eventually give a chance the wand blows up or is discharged or something like that, just to make things interesting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7214360, member: 6895991"] Thanks for pointing that out XP for that, and lol on the heavy breathers :P And I think also your heavily obscured condition for hiding is the correct one. I think people view that game as a tactical combat simulation sometimes tend to forget about context. I did never deny that someone invisible who makes a lot of noise gives himself away, what I do deny, is like you also wrote that someone makes big noise by flying via spell or leaves other tracks. So in this special case any kind of stealth check is unnecessary, it simply does not apply. If dispel magic would target a definable area, say a couple of squares on a battle map, then I would agree with the posters having the opinion that the dispel at the wand would cause the other spells on the individual to fail. But dispel says a creature or object and if you target the object you do not target the creature. The wand is also the only possible thing to target in this case. If I want to get action out of this scene as a DM, I would eventually give a chance the wand blows up or is discharged or something like that, just to make things interesting. [/QUOTE]

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