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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7216901" data-attributes="member: 23751">There doesn't have to be a combat action for combat to start.  Two sides see each other and initiative is rolled before anyone gets to move.  The flyer was not hidden and was holding a visible wand, so he would not be able to just unilaterally get an action without anyone else being able to act.The way you are fighting for this flyer to succeed and for the caster to not have been able to do anything, makes me think that you are the flying trying to get away with the wand of orcus at the expense of the rest of the party.</blockquote>