Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How would you wish WOTC to do Dark Sun
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8044208" data-attributes="member: 6694221"><p>I feel the 5e Dark Sun Setting Guide can focus on a "basic" section of the book, that closely models the original 2e boxed set.</p><p></p><p>Then have separate sections for "expansions" with options that the DM can easily add or ignore.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>So the "basic" races are:</strong></p><p></p><p>• Human</p><p>• Elf / Elf-Human</p><p>• Dwarf / Dwarf-Human</p><p>• Giant-Human (Large!)</p><p>• Halfling</p><p>• Thri-Kreen</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>The "basic" classes are something like:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Martial</strong></p><p>• Rage Barbarian ≈ savage "Fighter"</p><p>• Champion Fighter ≈ mercenary "Fighter"</p><p>• Battlemaster Fighter ≈ "Gladiator"</p><p>• Hunter Ranger</p><p>• Thief Rogue</p><p>• Assassin Rogue ≈ "Minstrel" (with disguise, performance, impersonation, called "minstrel" to disambiguate from 5e Bard)</p><p></p><p><strong>Arcane</strong></p><p>• Wizard ≈ "Defiler" (any highest slot level spell defiles) / "Preserver" (avoid highest slot level; split into lower slot levels)</p><p>• Eldritch Knight Fighter (?) ≈ "Templar" (so dragon Wizard and enforcer Templar can share same arcane spell list?)</p><p></p><p><strong>Divine</strong></p><p>• Cleric (animistic PSYCHIC attunement with each cosmic elemental force, lacking any concept of "worship")</p><p>• Moon Druid (mostly place-bound NPCs? venerating the lifeforms and elements of a specific landscape feature)</p><p></p><p><strong>Psionic</strong></p><p>• level 1 psionic feat</p><p></p><p>• Psi Knight Fighter</p><p>• Soul Knife Rogue</p><p>• Psychic Soul Sorcerer</p><p>• Psion (?)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Optional classes that seem to resonate Dark Sun tropes:</strong></p><p></p><p>In a separate section, offer an "expansion" of class options, that the DM can add or ignore. Something like:</p><p></p><p><strong>Psionic</strong></p><p>• Glamor/Swords Bard (psionic?) ≈ entertainers who psionically manipulate</p><p>• Lore Bard (psionic?) ≈ rare scholars (save history!)</p><p>• Shadow Monk (psionic?) ≈ planar mystics of the Black</p><p>• Goo Warlock (psionic?) ≈ dominated by insane mindstuff residues within the Black</p><p></p><p><strong>Arcane</strong></p><p>• Fey/Hexblade Warlock ≈ elf magic, pact with planetary plant lifeforce; elves are wasteland nomads who cherish plants</p><p></p><p><strong>Divine</strong></p><p>• Paladin</p><p>(human oath: Conquest!)</p><p>(human oath: Vengeance: survive by any means)</p><p>(elf oath: Ancients: preserve plant life, punish defilers)</p><p>(dwarf oath: Oathbreaker: commune undead "banshee" dwarves in the Gray, who failed to finish their focus while alive)</p><p>(rare multi-species oath: Devotion: help each other survive, withdrawing from corrupt dragon-sorcerer civilizations)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Setting</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Planes</strong></p><p>• Material ≈ planet Athas</p><p>• Elemental ≈ the four elements</p><p>• Black ≈ an empty bleak version of the astral, faint dreamy mindstuffs ≈ the fifth element</p><p>• Gray ≈ grayish version of Shadowfell</p><p></p><p><strong>"Basic" region</strong></p><p>• On Athas, the "basic" setting is the region of Tyr</p><p></p><p><strong>"Expansion" with OPTIONAL regions in a separate section of the book</strong></p><p>• Regions that can represent other timelines in the Dark Sun setting</p><p>• Advanced psionic utopian civilizations, far from Tyr, around the planet of Athas, being points-of-light oases struggling to survive against the wastelands</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haldrik, post: 8044208, member: 6694221"] I feel the 5e Dark Sun Setting Guide can focus on a "basic" section of the book, that closely models the original 2e boxed set. Then have separate sections for "expansions" with options that the DM can easily add or ignore. [B]So the "basic" races are:[/B] • Human • Elf / Elf-Human • Dwarf / Dwarf-Human • Giant-Human (Large!) • Halfling • Thri-Kreen [B]The "basic" classes are something like: Martial[/B] • Rage Barbarian ≈ savage "Fighter" • Champion Fighter ≈ mercenary "Fighter" • Battlemaster Fighter ≈ "Gladiator" • Hunter Ranger • Thief Rogue • Assassin Rogue ≈ "Minstrel" (with disguise, performance, impersonation, called "minstrel" to disambiguate from 5e Bard) [B]Arcane[/B] • Wizard ≈ "Defiler" (any highest slot level spell defiles) / "Preserver" (avoid highest slot level; split into lower slot levels) • Eldritch Knight Fighter (?) ≈ "Templar" (so dragon Wizard and enforcer Templar can share same arcane spell list?) [B]Divine[/B] • Cleric (animistic PSYCHIC attunement with each cosmic elemental force, lacking any concept of "worship") • Moon Druid (mostly place-bound NPCs? venerating the lifeforms and elements of a specific landscape feature) [B]Psionic[/B] • level 1 psionic feat • Psi Knight Fighter • Soul Knife Rogue • Psychic Soul Sorcerer • Psion (?) [B]Optional classes that seem to resonate Dark Sun tropes:[/B] In a separate section, offer an "expansion" of class options, that the DM can add or ignore. Something like: [B]Psionic[/B] • Glamor/Swords Bard (psionic?) ≈ entertainers who psionically manipulate • Lore Bard (psionic?) ≈ rare scholars (save history!) • Shadow Monk (psionic?) ≈ planar mystics of the Black • Goo Warlock (psionic?) ≈ dominated by insane mindstuff residues within the Black [B]Arcane[/B] • Fey/Hexblade Warlock ≈ elf magic, pact with planetary plant lifeforce; elves are wasteland nomads who cherish plants [B]Divine[/B] • Paladin (human oath: Conquest!) (human oath: Vengeance: survive by any means) (elf oath: Ancients: preserve plant life, punish defilers) (dwarf oath: Oathbreaker: commune undead "banshee" dwarves in the Gray, who failed to finish their focus while alive) (rare multi-species oath: Devotion: help each other survive, withdrawing from corrupt dragon-sorcerer civilizations) [B]Setting Planes[/B] • Material ≈ planet Athas • Elemental ≈ the four elements • Black ≈ an empty bleak version of the astral, faint dreamy mindstuffs ≈ the fifth element • Gray ≈ grayish version of Shadowfell [B]"Basic" region[/B] • On Athas, the "basic" setting is the region of Tyr [B]"Expansion" with OPTIONAL regions in a separate section of the book[/B] • Regions that can represent other timelines in the Dark Sun setting • Advanced psionic utopian civilizations, far from Tyr, around the planet of Athas, being points-of-light oases struggling to survive against the wastelands [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
How would you wish WOTC to do Dark Sun
Top