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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8049110" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>You know, I looked through the 3.5 Dragon Issue (319) and 4e DS guide again, and while they give a blurb on each class in 3.5, 4e is utterly mum about the topic of where classes come from, save the "no divine" axiom. I can give you a taste on a few classes though from 3.5:</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="3.5 DS stuff"]BARD</p><p>While rare, bards do exist on Athas in small, well-organized groups known as troupes. Most bard troupes make their members wealthy not by their frequent performances in the service of nobles and templars, but in their clan-destine operations.</p><p>As arcane spellcasters with various other abilities, bards work hard to cover their magical abilities with their performances. Spending their lives hiding behind the facade of simple performers, bards learn the intricacies and techniques of covert activities, and as such make excellent spies and assassins. Bards try to keep their abilities secret, despite their fame and familiarity among nobles. Thus, the bard class is relatively unknown by most residents of Athas, as they are seen as mere performers.</p><p>MONK</p><p>Large monasteries for training monks don't exist in DARK SUN, and so the monks of Athas learn their techniques directly from lone. more experienced monks. Popular in the gladiatorial arenas for their skill fighting without weapons or armor, many monks make their living as relatively pampered slaves of powerful nobles and templars. A monk is seen as a less dangerous slave than a psychic warrior, yet one almost equally capable of providing unusual and crowd pleasing martial displays. Athasian monks have no problem using their myriad special abilities to impress a crowd. After all, a popular (and profitable) gladiator slave is a safe, well-cared-for one. Due to their popularity, monk gladiators are frequently freed in their later years, and most of them train other freemen in their ways. These free monks often follow their teachers into the arenas in search of wealth and further train-ing. Others use their skills to survive the harsh world outside the cities, finding their abilities and discipline boons in the chaotic and unpredictable sands of Athas.</p><p>PALADIN</p><p>Like the monk, a paladin relies on her discipline to make sense of a chaotic world. While others might panic when faced by some new and unexpected threat bursting from the sands, the paladin quickly assesses the situation and forms a plan of action. Athasian paladins don't worship any particular god. but they have a strong and unbending belief in the supremacy of law and goodness. Paladins are extremely rare in Athas for several reasons. The harsh nature of the desert world puts a high premium on flexibility and adaptability, neither of which the paladin is particularly known for. In addition, dragon-kings take umbrage at a paladin's unerring goodness and continuous striving for the freedom of city-states from the tyranny of dragon-kings. Finally, most paladins are loners, as many beings in Athas can't reconcile the needs of survival with the paladin's stubborn adherence to a strict code of morality.</p><p>SORCERER</p><p>Rarest of the spellcasting classes, sorcerers combine the flexibility of psions with the potentially devastating power of the wizard. The ability to become a sorcerer seems to occur randomly, and most of those who discover they have the gift do nor reveal it to anyone. Unlike wizards, who typically spend many years honing their craft, sorcerers generally gain their abilities suddenly, during adolescence. Without quite understanding the destructive power they wield, most youths who dis-cover their latent sorcery find it exciting and cast the most powerful spells they can. They often learn the difference between preserving and defiling magic the hard way. Because of the destruction wrought by defilers, and the difficulty in discovering who has the ability to cast sorcerous spells. every city-state has outlawed sorcery. Known and suspected sorcerers face execution. As a result, sorcerers have learned to hide their spellcasting, by masking their arcane gestures, whispering their verbal components, and hiding on their persons the strange materials and components they need to cast spells. Many attempt to pass themselves as psions, while bolder sorcerers carry a fake spellbook, knowing that the laws are slightly more lenient on wizards than on sorcerers.</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Not to upset your Social Justice Allegory, but for two editions, they just kinda do. I guess Bards could represent community activism and organizing (the power of getting large groups of people to do stuff) while Sorcerers the power of self belief in the face of people who hate you for how you were born.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8049110, member: 7635"] You know, I looked through the 3.5 Dragon Issue (319) and 4e DS guide again, and while they give a blurb on each class in 3.5, 4e is utterly mum about the topic of where classes come from, save the "no divine" axiom. I can give you a taste on a few classes though from 3.5: [SPOILER="3.5 DS stuff"]BARD While rare, bards do exist on Athas in small, well-organized groups known as troupes. Most bard troupes make their members wealthy not by their frequent performances in the service of nobles and templars, but in their clan-destine operations. As arcane spellcasters with various other abilities, bards work hard to cover their magical abilities with their performances. Spending their lives hiding behind the facade of simple performers, bards learn the intricacies and techniques of covert activities, and as such make excellent spies and assassins. Bards try to keep their abilities secret, despite their fame and familiarity among nobles. Thus, the bard class is relatively unknown by most residents of Athas, as they are seen as mere performers. MONK Large monasteries for training monks don't exist in DARK SUN, and so the monks of Athas learn their techniques directly from lone. more experienced monks. Popular in the gladiatorial arenas for their skill fighting without weapons or armor, many monks make their living as relatively pampered slaves of powerful nobles and templars. A monk is seen as a less dangerous slave than a psychic warrior, yet one almost equally capable of providing unusual and crowd pleasing martial displays. Athasian monks have no problem using their myriad special abilities to impress a crowd. After all, a popular (and profitable) gladiator slave is a safe, well-cared-for one. Due to their popularity, monk gladiators are frequently freed in their later years, and most of them train other freemen in their ways. These free monks often follow their teachers into the arenas in search of wealth and further train-ing. Others use their skills to survive the harsh world outside the cities, finding their abilities and discipline boons in the chaotic and unpredictable sands of Athas. PALADIN Like the monk, a paladin relies on her discipline to make sense of a chaotic world. While others might panic when faced by some new and unexpected threat bursting from the sands, the paladin quickly assesses the situation and forms a plan of action. Athasian paladins don't worship any particular god. but they have a strong and unbending belief in the supremacy of law and goodness. Paladins are extremely rare in Athas for several reasons. The harsh nature of the desert world puts a high premium on flexibility and adaptability, neither of which the paladin is particularly known for. In addition, dragon-kings take umbrage at a paladin's unerring goodness and continuous striving for the freedom of city-states from the tyranny of dragon-kings. Finally, most paladins are loners, as many beings in Athas can't reconcile the needs of survival with the paladin's stubborn adherence to a strict code of morality. SORCERER Rarest of the spellcasting classes, sorcerers combine the flexibility of psions with the potentially devastating power of the wizard. The ability to become a sorcerer seems to occur randomly, and most of those who discover they have the gift do nor reveal it to anyone. Unlike wizards, who typically spend many years honing their craft, sorcerers generally gain their abilities suddenly, during adolescence. Without quite understanding the destructive power they wield, most youths who dis-cover their latent sorcery find it exciting and cast the most powerful spells they can. They often learn the difference between preserving and defiling magic the hard way. Because of the destruction wrought by defilers, and the difficulty in discovering who has the ability to cast sorcerous spells. every city-state has outlawed sorcery. Known and suspected sorcerers face execution. As a result, sorcerers have learned to hide their spellcasting, by masking their arcane gestures, whispering their verbal components, and hiding on their persons the strange materials and components they need to cast spells. Many attempt to pass themselves as psions, while bolder sorcerers carry a fake spellbook, knowing that the laws are slightly more lenient on wizards than on sorcerers. [/SPOILER] Not to upset your Social Justice Allegory, but for two editions, they just kinda do. I guess Bards could represent community activism and organizing (the power of getting large groups of people to do stuff) while Sorcerers the power of self belief in the face of people who hate you for how you were born. [/QUOTE]
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