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<blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8051963" data-attributes="member: 6694221"><p>Templars are a surprisingly problematic character concept.</p><p></p><p>• 2e Templar is a Cleric who "worships" a draconicized human Wizard, the "sorcerer-king" (analogous to a Caesar as a divine-king).</p><p></p><p>• 4e deleted Divine classes</p><p>• 4e made elemental Cleric ANY Primal class (Druid, Shaman, et al), and templar Cleric ANY Arcane class (Wizard, Warlock, et al).</p><p>• 4e made Templar a "theme" ( ≈ extra feats at level 1 character creation).</p><p></p><p>Here are the following suggestions from forumers in this thread with regard to a 5e templar.</p><p></p><p>• Templar is a Divine Cleric, such as a War domain, an Arcana domain, or a new domain, being a non-defiler (compare 2e).</p><p>• Templar is an Arcane Warlock, with a new pact with the sorcerer-king as a patron, with a license to defile (compare 4e).</p><p>• Templar is a Paladin, with sorcerer-king oath, or even the Oath of Tyranny straightforwardly, as a Divine non-defiler enforcer (compare 2e).</p><p>• Templar is an Eldritch Knight, gaining spells known from the sorcerer-king, with a license to defile (compare 4e)</p><p>• Templar is a 5e Background that can be any class, and gains a special relationship with a particular sorcerer-king (combine both 2e and 4e).</p><p></p><p>Are there other suggestions?</p><p></p><p>Deriving from D&D tradition, the Templar must be a spellcaster. 2e is a non-defiler Divine full-caster. 4e is a defiler Arcane full- or partial-caster.</p><p></p><p>For 5e, it seems the most important decision is whether the Templar is an Arcane defiler or a Divine non-defiler. But either option seems equally valid.</p><p></p><p>A secondary decision is whether this is a full-caster or any caster.</p><p></p><p>The Templar can work as a 5e Background, regardless of which classes are allowed to be prerequisites for this Background.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haldrik, post: 8051963, member: 6694221"] Templars are a surprisingly problematic character concept. • 2e Templar is a Cleric who "worships" a draconicized human Wizard, the "sorcerer-king" (analogous to a Caesar as a divine-king). • 4e deleted Divine classes • 4e made elemental Cleric ANY Primal class (Druid, Shaman, et al), and templar Cleric ANY Arcane class (Wizard, Warlock, et al). • 4e made Templar a "theme" ( ≈ extra feats at level 1 character creation). Here are the following suggestions from forumers in this thread with regard to a 5e templar. • Templar is a Divine Cleric, such as a War domain, an Arcana domain, or a new domain, being a non-defiler (compare 2e). • Templar is an Arcane Warlock, with a new pact with the sorcerer-king as a patron, with a license to defile (compare 4e). • Templar is a Paladin, with sorcerer-king oath, or even the Oath of Tyranny straightforwardly, as a Divine non-defiler enforcer (compare 2e). • Templar is an Eldritch Knight, gaining spells known from the sorcerer-king, with a license to defile (compare 4e) • Templar is a 5e Background that can be any class, and gains a special relationship with a particular sorcerer-king (combine both 2e and 4e). Are there other suggestions? Deriving from D&D tradition, the Templar must be a spellcaster. 2e is a non-defiler Divine full-caster. 4e is a defiler Arcane full- or partial-caster. For 5e, it seems the most important decision is whether the Templar is an Arcane defiler or a Divine non-defiler. But either option seems equally valid. A secondary decision is whether this is a full-caster or any caster. The Templar can work as a 5e Background, regardless of which classes are allowed to be prerequisites for this Background. [/QUOTE]
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