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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 4598574" data-attributes="member: 4892">Alot of bad assumptions being made here.Another possibility here is that Problem Guy isn't all that interested in playing. He sounds very unengaged with the game based on the OPs statements. Maybe he discovered that RPGs just aren't his thing. Maybe he does like D&D but he discovered that he isn't as invested in rules mastery as the other players, based on the comments that it took two dead bards and a dead monk to make him realize those classes suck. He might show up still because he considers you guys to be good friends, regardless of his like or dislike of the game. He could be using his wife as his excuse to skip out most if the time to avoid a game that he isn't enjoying. Or he may not be fighting for his cause to go game as hard as he can because he has no reason to fight for something he doesn't enjoy.I've had two long-time friends bow out of the group "because of the wives." One of them has no problem being independant from his wife and going out on his own, he just disliked the power-gaming rules mastery of another long-time friend. He used the wife excuse to spare my feelings, it was later comments that opened my eyes to the real problem. The second used the wife excuse because he hates traveling at all to game. We live 15 miles apart and the game is regularly held at my home since I DM and have the best table space. His wife and I are friends too and she has said many times that he should come over to game and bring their son(s) so they can play with my kids.</blockquote>

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