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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7136689" data-attributes="member: 996">Watched it last night.&nbsp; I remembered it being bad, but, wow, was it /bad/, even by failed TV pilot standards, even by 80s fantasy movie standards.&nbsp; (BTW, speaking of 80s fantasy movies, what is it with birds?&nbsp; Toran is of the &quot;Hawk Clan,&quot; we had Ladyhawk and Hawk the Slayer and Ator was the 'Fighting Eagle...'&nbsp; Birds of a feather, I guess... though Ladyhawk hardly deserves to be in such bad company.)&nbsp; The horrid video quality sure didn't help.Sure.&nbsp; The status of Heart-bowmen, alluded to in the flick, though, makes me think it should have a Theme or PP or the bow itself be a minor artifact (it has a name, and can reject a would-be wielder fatally, so the artifact concordance system could work well) or at least use that system, since it's not actually unique, per se. (It'd also fit the way 13A handles magic items, as having a bit of personality and inflicting 'quirks' on the wielder.)Anyway, I was worried about the 'burst' power of the bow being only 'encounter' in 4e, but, on re-viewing, though it efficiently blew up individual snakepeople (who would likely be minions), it only really evinced a burst twice, once vs the snakepeople climbing down the cliff face, and once going vs a knot of them before going into the wizard's cave - obviously separate encounters.&nbsp; So maybe OK.&nbsp;He seems CHA-based, so Artful Dodger.&nbsp; He likes knives so the 4e Rogue's dagger fetish would be fine.&nbsp; (I'd completely forgotten about him until he came on screen, the moment I saw the silly knife-on-his-hat he came back to me.)&nbsp;I had someone walk into an Encounters game once with a Wizard|Druid Fey-Beast-Tamer - so a familiar, a companion animal, and fey-origin beast pet, plus summons.&nbsp; Or her necklace could just act like a half-dozen Figurines of Wondrous Power.&nbsp; She could even be a Companion-character NPC.&nbsp;The world does feel that way, but two of the characters have magic items and one uses some fairly peripheral magic, the glowy-gem magic items have dramatic on-screen power, as dramatic as cheesy early-80s TV-movie special effects can make them.But, yeah, like I said initially, at the time it reminded me much more of RuneQuest than D&amp;D.&nbsp; AD&amp;D with it's distinctive 'Vancian' casters, obligatory clerical healing, and plenitude of magic items really fit vanishingly little fantasy fiction, especially movies from the same period, like this one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7136689, member: 996"] Watched it last night. I remembered it being bad, but, wow, was it /bad/, even by failed TV pilot standards, even by 80s fantasy movie standards. (BTW, speaking of 80s fantasy movies, what is it with birds? Toran is of the "Hawk Clan," we had Ladyhawk and Hawk the Slayer and Ator was the 'Fighting Eagle...' Birds of a feather, I guess... though Ladyhawk hardly deserves to be in such bad company.) The horrid video quality sure didn't help. Sure. The status of Heart-bowmen, alluded to in the flick, though, makes me think it should have a Theme or PP or the bow itself be a minor artifact (it has a name, and can reject a would-be wielder fatally, so the artifact concordance system could work well) or at least use that system, since it's not actually unique, per se. (It'd also fit the way 13A handles magic items, as having a bit of personality and inflicting 'quirks' on the wielder.) Anyway, I was worried about the 'burst' power of the bow being only 'encounter' in 4e, but, on re-viewing, though it efficiently blew up individual snakepeople (who would likely be minions), it only really evinced a burst twice, once vs the snakepeople climbing down the cliff face, and once going vs a knot of them before going into the wizard's cave - obviously separate encounters. So maybe OK. He seems CHA-based, so Artful Dodger. He likes knives so the 4e Rogue's dagger fetish would be fine. (I'd completely forgotten about him until he came on screen, the moment I saw the silly knife-on-his-hat he came back to me.) I had someone walk into an Encounters game once with a Wizard|Druid Fey-Beast-Tamer - so a familiar, a companion animal, and fey-origin beast pet, plus summons. Or her necklace could just act like a half-dozen Figurines of Wondrous Power. She could even be a Companion-character NPC. The world does feel that way, but two of the characters have magic items and one uses some fairly peripheral magic, the glowy-gem magic items have dramatic on-screen power, as dramatic as cheesy early-80s TV-movie special effects can make them. But, yeah, like I said initially, at the time it reminded me much more of RuneQuest than D&D. AD&D with it's distinctive 'Vancian' casters, obligatory clerical healing, and plenitude of magic items really fit vanishingly little fantasy fiction, especially movies from the same period, like this one. [/QUOTE]

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