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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seregil" data-source="post: 6472434" data-attributes="member: 38425">Well, I do like FR as originally created. In the FR1 sourcebook, there  are maybe 50 people described with basic stats. Levels go from 27 to 21 to 17(?) then down quickly. 90 percent of the people are below level 10. In my world, what makes a person dangerous is their 'network'. Khelben is certainly powerful but, as an individual, a large mob of peasants can probably kill him or force him to retreat. However, as a member of the Lords, the Harpers and with his friends, he is far more dangerous and his level matters far less.However, you have to keep in mind that FR1 was written for 1E, so there was no level limits. Khelben being level 27 in 1E, to me, makes him level 18 in Pathfinder. Maybe 19. Also interesting to note that he is HIGHER level than Elminster.Besides, I play the movers and shakers as behind the scenes guys. While the group has met Khelben and Piergeiron, in was in the context of an emergency and the two were clearly dealing with important matters and the group was in and out in minutes.Using just the Grey Box, FR1 and FR5 keeps things reasonable. The reason I see with FR being so powerful NPC heavy was to keep players from just taking over, but as I said above, GROUPS are more powerful than any individual. This counters the players personal power very quickly.That also goes for dragons. The dragon is personally powerful, the city of Waterdeep is more powerful.</blockquote>

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