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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1241932" data-attributes="member: 1134">ok polar ray sucks as an 8th level spell and doens't compare to the other spells of its level.  At least it does follow the damage caps(though maybe they should be rewritten for the single target effects on the high level end)  But unfortunatley harm does compare well with 8th level spells and its only 6th level.  Harm or maze, me I'm going with harm.  Harm or irresistable dance, tough call but dance is more insulting so I'd go with that.  harm or horrid wilting depends on the foes, harm more damage but only to one, horrid wilting less damage but to a group.Heck harm or power word kill, would you rather kill someone no save if they have like 100 hp or less, but do nothing if they have more or do 150 hp or 75 on a save.  Harm is certianly more effctive its only loss is its touch range in comparison to PWK. Perosnlly I think PWK is a bit sub par for 9th level, at lest compared to other 9th level spells, but harm shouldn't come close to it in power especially since wiz/sor are supposed ot do more damage than clerics.Either harm is too good, or every wiz/sor damage dealing and some save or else spells of 6th level and beyond are vastly sub par.</blockquote>