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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4610166" data-attributes="member: 40961">Regarding Felon's post number 11: 1. The barbarian actually can't use Rage Strike that often.  You have to be raging, and then you have to spend a rage.  Even if you burn all of your daily attacks in one fight, that's only two rage strikes until you reach level 20.  Three with gear, I suppose.  And each one costs you the ability to rage in a future fight, which is a big, big deal. Plus, as far as damage calculations go, I ran a few when the barbarian came out.  The barbarian's damage with a level 5 rage strike came out to about equal with my brutal rogue's damage using Deep Cut (barbarian won unless the Deep Cut victim failed his save, or had a lower fort than AC by about 2, in which case the rogue pulled ahead).  I gave them both similar feats, gear, and ability scores.  I didn't do every level, but it did at least provide me with a gut check. 2. I don't think its easy to compare barbarian dailies to other classes dailies.  Other strikers so far have bonus damage effects.  The rogue has his sneak attack damage, and the ranger has his hunter's quarry, etc.  These are "always on" effects that improve damage.  The barbarian doesn't have these.  Instead he has rages.  So what you're seeing with his dailies is that they aren't only a daily attack, they've also got a class ability folded into them. 3. The damage is a given- if you're raging.  My level 8 PCs go through 3 to 5 encounters in a given combat heavy day.  By definition, an equal leveled barbarian would be spending 1 to 3 encounters without his rage.  Without his rage, he's got the damage of a fighter, but without any marking and with a terrible AC. There are a few barbarian powers that I think are questionable, but overall I think they work out.</blockquote>

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