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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4611920" data-attributes="member: 8158">&quot;Inferior to every other class&quot;? That has the ring of hyperbole.From looking them over, barbarian dailies seem okay as far as being &quot;on-par&quot; with the vast majority of striker dailies. Seems to me that when folks get into doing these power comparisons, they look for the most &quot;uber&quot; power they can find in the class (even if it's 29th level) and then compare it to what the other guy's most broken thing is at that level. Thus, the comparison winds up portraying the extreme as the baseline. I notice, for example, that all arguments that the barbarian is weak compared to other strikers is done by pretending the warlock doesn't exist at all. So, when saying the barbarian is the weakest of all classes when comes to &quot;novaing&quot; (lousy term that), there's an implicit &quot;as long as you don't count the gimped classes, of course&quot;.&quot;NO effect&quot; is another outright hyperbolic thing to say. Is it really your contention that when the barb turns a 9th-level daily into 5[W], nobody's impressed. Children point at him and laugh? That we can't find a single class who's not outperforming that?I will grant that it's odd that the design seems to lock in a rage attack at a 3[W] cap, and that might be incentive sufficient to allow rage strike as an at-will during my playtest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 4611920, member: 8158"] "Inferior to every other class"? That has the ring of hyperbole. From looking them over, barbarian dailies seem okay as far as being "on-par" with the vast majority of striker dailies. Seems to me that when folks get into doing these power comparisons, they look for the most "uber" power they can find in the class (even if it's 29th level) and then compare it to what the other guy's most broken thing is at that level. Thus, the comparison winds up portraying the extreme as the baseline. I notice, for example, that all arguments that the barbarian is weak compared to other strikers is done by pretending the warlock doesn't exist at all. So, when saying the barbarian is the weakest of all classes when comes to "novaing" (lousy term that), there's an implicit "as long as you don't count the gimped classes, of course". "NO effect" is another outright hyperbolic thing to say. Is it really your contention that when the barb turns a 9th-level daily into 5[W], nobody's impressed. Children point at him and laugh? That we can't find a single class who's not outperforming that? I will grant that it's odd that the design seems to lock in a rage attack at a 3[W] cap, and that might be incentive sufficient to allow rage strike as an at-will during my playtest. [/QUOTE]

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