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<blockquote data-quote="Cybit" data-source="post: 6257826" data-attributes="member: 66111">Oddly enough, while I like Damage on a Miss conceptually (and 4E is my favorite released version of D&amp;D, NEXT being my overall favorite at this point), I don't like it the way it is currently implemented - because I see potential future hazards with &quot;attacks that deal damage&quot; feats &amp; abilities and so forth.&nbsp; While you can write in the exceptions on each of those abilities, things tend to get missed in RPG books, and I could see it leading to an issue further down the line.&nbsp; I just don't like it because it eats up design space.&nbsp; That and it doesn't fit the way that kind of fighter plays in general.&nbsp; As it stands, I don't think you add 1.5x STR mod to damage when you hit with a 2H weapon in NEXT - I'd rather have hits that deal 2X STR damage for Great Weapon Fighting.&nbsp; Actually, I'd go with 1.5x STR damage and rolling an additional weapon dice worth of damage on criticals.&nbsp; IE: An ability that starts with &quot;when you deal fire damage&quot; that is intended for spellcasting classes and someone's wielding a fiery 2h bastard sword could lead to issues.Conceptually I just lump it in with all the other BS that D&amp;D entails.&nbsp; I feel as if I thought about D&amp;D logically, my brain would break.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cybit, post: 6257826, member: 66111"] Oddly enough, while I like Damage on a Miss conceptually (and 4E is my favorite released version of D&D, NEXT being my overall favorite at this point), I don't like it the way it is currently implemented - because I see potential future hazards with "attacks that deal damage" feats & abilities and so forth. While you can write in the exceptions on each of those abilities, things tend to get missed in RPG books, and I could see it leading to an issue further down the line. I just don't like it because it eats up design space. That and it doesn't fit the way that kind of fighter plays in general. As it stands, I don't think you add 1.5x STR mod to damage when you hit with a 2H weapon in NEXT - I'd rather have hits that deal 2X STR damage for Great Weapon Fighting. Actually, I'd go with 1.5x STR damage and rolling an additional weapon dice worth of damage on criticals. IE: An ability that starts with "when you deal fire damage" that is intended for spellcasting classes and someone's wielding a fiery 2h bastard sword could lead to issues. Conceptually I just lump it in with all the other BS that D&D entails. I feel as if I thought about D&D logically, my brain would break. [/QUOTE]

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