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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 6469407" data-attributes="member: 14506">Damage as a save rules are neat.I think your die conversion should follow this. The monster average damage is literally the average of the die (2d6=7) roll but for your purposes this is better I think otherwise you may get some weird interactions. Fireball 8d6 becomes 32 (if 4 per die) and 24 (if 3 per die)...d4 2d6 3d8 4d10 5d12 6d20 10So damage save DC is equal to: converted damage die + STR/DEX + other modifiers or monster average damageA damage save roll is equal to:Armor modifier + CON + converted HD + 2*Proficiency - 20 + d20So if you were a 1st level fighter with AC 15 armor and 14 CON, you would have: +15 (Armor) +3 (CON) +5 (HD) +4 (2*Proficiency) -20 (+7 total) +d20 = avg. roll 18.5If you were a 1st level wizard with mage armor AC 13 and 10 CON, you would have:+13 (Armor) +0 (CON) +3 (HD) +4 (2*Proficiency) -20 (+0 total) +d20 = avg. roll 11.5If you make it by 5 no effect. If you make it but not by 5 you take an exhaustion level.  If you fail by 5 you take two exhaustion levels. Hmm, could shift everything by 5 more to account for this better.equal or greater - no effectFor every 5 you fail by - gain 1 exhaustion levelOr something like that...</blockquote>