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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olrox17" data-source="post: 7337644" data-attributes="member: 6801397">The chimera fight was just an example, but I should probably explain how it went a little better. Technically, the charmed condition doesn't really do much on its own. For the chimeras, the only consequence of being charmed was not being able to attack the bard, but they could attack the rest of the party at will, at that's what they did on their first turn after being charmed. Afterwards, the bard player asked me, since he could speak draconic, if he could convince the chimeras to leave. I decided to allow him to use his action to try and convince one of the chimeras to stay out of the fight. He had advantage, because charmed, but he still had to roll the check, and he had to repeat the check on all following rounds. So, basically, I allowed him to keep one chimera out of the fight, but at the cost of all his actions and always at the risk of failing the charisma check.I'll give another example of a fight that was made more interesting by HP thresholds. The PCs met 3 ettins, I believe they were sixth level. Either the bard or the warlock used the Fear spell on them, and only one ettin succeeded (they had advantage on the save, but only a +0 to the roll). Thanks to the threshold, the ettin could still fight. They had disadvantage to attacks, which made them miss more than normal, but in the end it was a nice fight. I was a bit torn about charm spells, but I felt they were already a bit underpowered on their own. After all, the target already gets advantage on the save, and it's not like the charmed condition is hard control on its own...the target can still attack its enemies, just not the caster.That's a good fix for long lasting save or suck effects, and I think I'll end up using it for some spells. Thanks!And yeah, I know that under my system CON becomes more valuable. It's not a big problem, I think, because CON is not a primary attribute for any 5e class. Nobody attacks with it, nobody casts with it, it has no skill attached to it.Barbarians can add it to AC, but only when unarmored (and half plate is basically just as good as a 20 in CON).And thank you, too. The threshold system is a work in progress, and you brought some interesting ideas and valid concerns that will be useful in its next evolution. Hope to hear from you again.</blockquote>

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