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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cbas10" data-source="post: 1258179" data-attributes="member: 6459">Personally, methods of determining hit points are no big deal to me.  The other local DMs and I agree that whatever methods players use and characters benefit by, the monsters, NPCs and adversaries follow the same rule (except adversaries do not get Maximum hit points at first level).I have no problem at all with rolling for hit points at each level beyond the first.  Generally, after a few levels, odds are you will have right around average hit points.  Some will have more; some will have less.  I just make sure to reflect this sort of thing in my character when role-playing him.  "Hmmm...my character has some pretty crappy hit points.  That must mean that he is not all that great at taking a hit and keeping on going - I better not rush him in to the trolls' den."  And (not knocking those of you on this topic) whenever one of my players cries and whines about low hit points, I point them to the Saturday game, in which I have worked my Ranger/Sorcerer/Arcane Archer to 10th level.  He has a whopping 28 hit points and is LITERALLY the only original character in the party.  It's not about being able to kick more ass and live another day; it's all about playing intelligently...and a little luck heps once in a while.  Needless to say, I don't hear much complaining about low hit points anymore.On the other hand, I can see the merit in taking Average, Average +1, or whatever other method a group uses.  Such a thing is a lot easier for bookkeeping, figuring out what traps or encounters may be a bit too deadly (CRs & ELs don't work 100% of the time), etc etc.  As for the "game balance issue," I used to be a big stickler for that, but game balance is thrown straight out the window anytime a lot of 3rd party d20 material is introduced.  That and my opinion that perfect balance is more the domain of computer/console games; PnP games are more the domain of enjoying the role of your character in the story that the DM and players collectively create.</blockquote>

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