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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2400208" data-attributes="member: 3146">Really bad idea. That would make the strength check what, DC 35 for a 20th level druid. At that point, anyone much weaker than a raging 20th level half-orc barbarian needs to have the area fireballed before he can possibly make the strength check to break free.I agree with this. The game is better when maps are more detailed. However, I'm not convinced that statting the plants with reach is necessary. If you're drawing a detailed map, you can already put the radius of a willow tree's canopy on the map and I think that detailing what would essentially be threatened areas for ever patch of undergrowth and tree in a 40 radius on a detailed map would make the spell take an unacceptable amount of time to adjudicate. Much better to have it only apply to those particular squares and maybe to add a new category or other (like moderate grass) that would not normally justify a terrain type but can put up a DC 10 entangle. How do you imagine light underbrush? I would have thought it at least a DC 15 if we're talking cornstalks and elephant grass. DC 10 is something that might take a fit person for 6-12 seconds to break free from. I would figure that more for the 2-3' high weeds in an abandoned city lot if they all suddenly started wrapping around your ankles.</blockquote>