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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 996622" data-attributes="member: 259">Again, I disagree.  I don't think folks will want to do this stuff all the time; if I can get it to happen an average of twice per battle, I'd be ecstatic.Skills are definitely up to it.  In my example above, you could make do with only one check -- a jump check -- to resolve the maneuver (you could make it tumble, but currently jump is an underpowered skill and tumble is overpowered, so I'd rather make it the former).  Wanna run across a room, slide under a table, and trip the bad guy on the other side of the table, using the tabletop for cover?  Make it a balance check and give the attacker a +2 charge bonus and rule that the table provides 3/4 cover from anyone who is adjacent to the table and isn't prone.Wanna run up to a lamp-post, swing around it, and kick the guy chasing you in the chest?  Make it a climb check (since it relies on holding tight with your hands to prevent falling off the lamp-post), and if it succeeds, you both inflict damage on and get a free bull-rush attempt against your chaser.If you want to add some feats to make it easier, that's great; I'll generally figure that a feat will give a +2 bonus to some funky maneuver or will eliminate an Attack of Opportunity.  But I want everyone to be able to attempt cool stuff without feats, and I feel pretty sure that skill checks (or sometimes straight ability checks) are the best mechanic for resolving these.<a href="http://pub109.ezboard.com/faquerrafrm29.showMessage?topicID=37.topic" target="_blank">We were discussing this exact topic awhile ago on the Rat Bastard DM Boards</a>.  You may want to check it out for more thoughts on how to handle such things.Daniel</blockquote>

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