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<blockquote data-quote="bganon" data-source="post: 5822438" data-attributes="member: 60886">Looks cool, but I don't really understand the level 20 power or the &quot;Creatures as Weapons&quot; sidebar.&nbsp; Why is Hurler's Rage a ranged weapon power?&nbsp; Why Str +4?&nbsp; Is the secondary supposed to allow you to use your grabbed target (the sidebar seems to prohibit this)?Why can grabbed creatures only be used with basic attacks?&nbsp; That's not true of improvised weapons in general. It also seems like it would make actually attacking with a grabbed creature pretty underwhelming.&nbsp; Also, if the &quot;Creatures as Weapons&quot; rules only come into play during Hurler's Rage, then maybe those rules should just be built into the power.If monsters A and B are flanking me (and not adjacent to each other), then I can grab A and use it to attack monster B without even sliding A to be adjacent?&nbsp; That seems... odd.&nbsp; But there's going to be all kinds of weirdness with using monsters as weapons, and I'm not sure how make simple rules for it.&nbsp; It might be easiest to make the Rage begin with an unavoidable grab, and build one or two special &quot;use-monster-as-weapon&quot; powers right into the power entry.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bganon, post: 5822438, member: 60886"] Looks cool, but I don't really understand the level 20 power or the "Creatures as Weapons" sidebar. Why is Hurler's Rage a ranged weapon power? Why Str +4? Is the secondary supposed to allow you to use your grabbed target (the sidebar seems to prohibit this)? Why can grabbed creatures only be used with basic attacks? That's not true of improvised weapons in general. It also seems like it would make actually attacking with a grabbed creature pretty underwhelming. Also, if the "Creatures as Weapons" rules only come into play during Hurler's Rage, then maybe those rules should just be built into the power. If monsters A and B are flanking me (and not adjacent to each other), then I can grab A and use it to attack monster B without even sliding A to be adjacent? That seems... odd. But there's going to be all kinds of weirdness with using monsters as weapons, and I'm not sure how make simple rules for it. It might be easiest to make the Rage begin with an unavoidable grab, and build one or two special "use-monster-as-weapon" powers right into the power entry. [/QUOTE]

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