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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7726445" data-attributes="member: 29398">Oh - agreed - probably not. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Fair enough...and that's what optional extras are for, be they official WotC or homebrew or whatever.Part of what makes a demon a demon and a dragon a dragon is that they rarely if ever even give their word, never mind keep it once given.The same can be said of half-Orcs - they too are usually distrusted at best and completely shunned at worst by civilized societies, and that's consistent with their origins (as in, Tolkein).Oh I gave him a chance to act alright...grudgingly ran with him for two (I think, might have been more) adventures until in mid-dungeon a dispute he had with another PC blew up and turned ugly, he went murderously PvP and the part of the party that disagreed with him realized quickly he was too much for us to handle. (the half-Dragon was kind of a power-build in an otherwise not very powergamed party)&nbsp; Needless to say the rest of that adventure was a bit of a gong show, though top marks for its entertainment value! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In character I left the party once we'd done the adventure and were back in town.Planescape is a setting in which many races and beings exist in a kind of overall (and slightly artificial) detente because to do otherwise would ruin the point of the setting.&nbsp; Quite different from the core game/setting in that regard.Lanefan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7726445, member: 29398"] Oh - agreed - probably not. :) Fair enough...and that's what optional extras are for, be they official WotC or homebrew or whatever. Part of what makes a demon a demon and a dragon a dragon is that they rarely if ever even give their word, never mind keep it once given. The same can be said of half-Orcs - they too are usually distrusted at best and completely shunned at worst by civilized societies, and that's consistent with their origins (as in, Tolkein). Oh I gave him a chance to act alright...grudgingly ran with him for two (I think, might have been more) adventures until in mid-dungeon a dispute he had with another PC blew up and turned ugly, he went murderously PvP and the part of the party that disagreed with him realized quickly he was too much for us to handle. (the half-Dragon was kind of a power-build in an otherwise not very powergamed party) Needless to say the rest of that adventure was a bit of a gong show, though top marks for its entertainment value! :) In character I left the party once we'd done the adventure and were back in town. Planescape is a setting in which many races and beings exist in a kind of overall (and slightly artificial) detente because to do otherwise would ruin the point of the setting. Quite different from the core game/setting in that regard. Lanefan [/QUOTE]

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