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<blockquote data-quote="WayOfTheFourElements" data-source="post: 7727205" data-attributes="member: 6904757">Except that Tolkien's writing has nothing to do with race and everything to do with depictions of evil as abhorrent as opposed to seductive. Tolkien merely falls on the side of Dante as opposed to Milton. As for primarily white, protagonists, Tolkien's writing is rooted in the mythology of northern European, which when those myths were created was overwhelmingly populated by white-skinned Germanic, Slavic, and Saxon peoples.We don't expect to find African protagonists in Chinese traditional literature/mythology, why would we expect anything different from Europeans?Without directly refuting these two simple arguments, I have a difficult time believing you are trying to bring race into a conversation in which it hold little reliance.As I have said, there is a world of difference between arguing that D&amp;D should branch our from its traditional Euro-centric roots and give equal respect/acceptance/page-space to all mythological/literary traditions and saying that &quot;Tolkien's racial patterns are deeply problematic.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayOfTheFourElements, post: 7727205, member: 6904757"] Except that Tolkien's writing has nothing to do with race and everything to do with depictions of evil as abhorrent as opposed to seductive. Tolkien merely falls on the side of Dante as opposed to Milton. As for primarily white, protagonists, Tolkien's writing is rooted in the mythology of northern European, which when those myths were created was overwhelmingly populated by white-skinned Germanic, Slavic, and Saxon peoples. We don't expect to find African protagonists in Chinese traditional literature/mythology, why would we expect anything different from Europeans? Without directly refuting these two simple arguments, I have a difficult time believing you are trying to bring race into a conversation in which it hold little reliance. As I have said, there is a world of difference between arguing that D&D should branch our from its traditional Euro-centric roots and give equal respect/acceptance/page-space to all mythological/literary traditions and saying that "Tolkien's racial patterns are deeply problematic." [/QUOTE]

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