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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5321050" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>Really? I can't agree; most of that feat support is terrible.</p><p></p><p>A Deva could take the feat that makes Memories a D8 or Magic of the Ages. Or she could look for things that give a conditional +1 to hit (which is what the d6->d8 boost is) more than once an encounter--maybe Back to the Wall, if she's melee.</p><p></p><p>Immortal (foo) is even worse, as it givs you that conditional bonus only on limited types of rolls--and the most important one requires all the others.</p><p></p><p>Eternal Void Memories is ok for a Deva assassin, except: 1. You're a Deva; why are you an assassin? 2. A +Dex to damage once an encounter isn't really worth being a Deva assassin and a feat. Make it +Dex for all attacks this round and next and we're talking. Astral Emnity is better (as it's functionally the same until epic levels, but you're a Deva Avenger, so your class isn't a cost), but a +3.5 damage bonus once an encounter isn't really upping your burst potential that much, and it doesn't go up that much if you boost Memories with bad feats.</p><p></p><p>The only memories feats that IMO are worth even considering are:</p><p></p><p>Memories of Destruction: getting the ability to throw off Daze or Stun is totally worthwhile even without the minion clearing power.</p><p></p><p>Resurgent Memory: Temp HP and a free shift is nice even as an encounter power. Also, absurd with Ascendent Lineage.</p><p></p><p>Ascendent Lineage: Getting to try to Memories every failure until one succeeds is totally worthwhile.</p><p></p><p>Memory of a Thousand Battles: I'm not sure why you're a Deva Fighter (maybe your'e an Essentials Fighter with Melee Training?), but -if- you take close reliable fighter powers, this could be worthwhile for at least a while. Of course, the only close reliable fighter power is Thicket of Blades. Even with non-close Reliable fighter powers, the upgrade from +1d6 to "reroll the attack" (particularly with the ability to chose which one to do at use time) is very sizable.</p><p></p><p>Shared Memories: Letting you use this on friends' powers makes this a lot less situational, and lets you make sure that important daily gets through.</p><p></p><p>Commander's Memory: Pure upgrade from Shared Memories.</p><p></p><p>so...there's one upgrade that most devas that care will take--Ascendent Lineage at paragon levels. The rest is conditional and thin--Psionic Paragon characters should look closely at Resurgent Memory (though it's ironically much better if they miss often; a shift and tmp hp every time you miss is a nice benny if you miss frequently; I could see psions dropping an area burst and choosing to memory the worst roll for the shift and temps) after they make space for Ascendent Lineage, and Deva warlords are probably Lazy or partially lazy, so Shared/Commander's Memory is a great fit for their build. But most Deva will not boost Memories at all until Paragon, and at that point the boosts are fighting for space with other things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 5321050, member: 59248"] Really? I can't agree; most of that feat support is terrible. A Deva could take the feat that makes Memories a D8 or Magic of the Ages. Or she could look for things that give a conditional +1 to hit (which is what the d6->d8 boost is) more than once an encounter--maybe Back to the Wall, if she's melee. Immortal (foo) is even worse, as it givs you that conditional bonus only on limited types of rolls--and the most important one requires all the others. Eternal Void Memories is ok for a Deva assassin, except: 1. You're a Deva; why are you an assassin? 2. A +Dex to damage once an encounter isn't really worth being a Deva assassin and a feat. Make it +Dex for all attacks this round and next and we're talking. Astral Emnity is better (as it's functionally the same until epic levels, but you're a Deva Avenger, so your class isn't a cost), but a +3.5 damage bonus once an encounter isn't really upping your burst potential that much, and it doesn't go up that much if you boost Memories with bad feats. The only memories feats that IMO are worth even considering are: Memories of Destruction: getting the ability to throw off Daze or Stun is totally worthwhile even without the minion clearing power. Resurgent Memory: Temp HP and a free shift is nice even as an encounter power. Also, absurd with Ascendent Lineage. Ascendent Lineage: Getting to try to Memories every failure until one succeeds is totally worthwhile. Memory of a Thousand Battles: I'm not sure why you're a Deva Fighter (maybe your'e an Essentials Fighter with Melee Training?), but -if- you take close reliable fighter powers, this could be worthwhile for at least a while. Of course, the only close reliable fighter power is Thicket of Blades. Even with non-close Reliable fighter powers, the upgrade from +1d6 to "reroll the attack" (particularly with the ability to chose which one to do at use time) is very sizable. Shared Memories: Letting you use this on friends' powers makes this a lot less situational, and lets you make sure that important daily gets through. Commander's Memory: Pure upgrade from Shared Memories. so...there's one upgrade that most devas that care will take--Ascendent Lineage at paragon levels. The rest is conditional and thin--Psionic Paragon characters should look closely at Resurgent Memory (though it's ironically much better if they miss often; a shift and tmp hp every time you miss is a nice benny if you miss frequently; I could see psions dropping an area burst and choosing to memory the worst roll for the shift and temps) after they make space for Ascendent Lineage, and Deva warlords are probably Lazy or partially lazy, so Shared/Commander's Memory is a great fit for their build. But most Deva will not boost Memories at all until Paragon, and at that point the boosts are fighting for space with other things. [/QUOTE]
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